Jimmy Eat World's Hear You Me

Chef · Post by **Chef** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:24 am

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, IM CONSTANTLY SAYING I DONT KNOW EVERYTHING

thank you rozard

so im bad at wording things. my point is, punk is dead, punk rock is shit, pop punk is an oxymoron and sucks. yes, my information changes, im a bad debater.

theres another thing that pisses me off, alternative isnt alternative anymore, its mainstream. real alternative is now pretty much blues and art poppy rock.

Outlaw Desire · Post by **Outlaw Desire** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:25 am

Wait, tell me I read that wrong, did you just say that taking back sunday was a "punk" band?

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:25 am

Rozard wrote:I've talked to Chef about music many times. He may be only 15, but he knows his shit. You're talking about punk rock, which is not dead. Chef's saying punk is dead, which it is. Punk is not the same as punk rock. Also, Blink-182 isn't punk rock, they're pop punk.

You know what you're tlaking about, and this is exactly what I've been saying. Chef is against this, he thinks all punk is the same, yet diffrence in sound between punk to pop-punk, to punk-rock, to emo-punk is all incredibly diffrent. He is refusing to understand this, or even ackowledge it's a possibility. He knows the ramones sound, he also knows they're punk, he knows blinks latest sound (hopefully good enough to know they're pop-punk) and I gave him three great examples of punk-rock, I also gave outlaw desire three more. All I want him to do is open up his mind, he doesn't know everything, and in this particular situation, he isn't right either. Just because some one can know a lot, doesn't mean they know everything.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:28 am

Chef wrote:WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, IM CONSTANTLY SAYING I DONT KNOW EVERYTHING

thank you rozard

so im bad at wording things. my point is, punk is dead, punk rock is shit, pop punk is an oxymoron and sucks. yes, my information changes, im a bad debater.

theres another thing that pisses me off, alternative isnt alternative anymore, its mainstream. real alternative is now pretty much blues and art poppy rock.

that is the FIRST time you've said this, so what ever you've been thinking as you've typed you must be right, you're a bad debator. But, alas, you've met my requirments, and I have no need to harras/argue/or torment you any longer, this argument is done. But if you did like punk at one time like you said, you might want to check those bands out anyways, they kick ass, or atleast I think so.

Chef · Post by **Chef** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:29 am

DAMMIT IVE MADE AN ASS OF MYSELF

punk rock=punk

punk-rock=...not punk

missed the hyphen every time

ill shut up about this if you dont make a "see, i was right" post

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:31 am

Outlaw Desire wrote:Wait, tell me I read that wrong, did you just say that taking back sunday was a "punk" band?

That is what I said, and what I think. Amazon classified them in several ways but pretty much the same, here they are

Styles > Alternative Rock > Hardcore & Punk > Emo
Styles > Alternative Rock > General
Indie Music > Alternative Rock > General
Indie Music > Alternative Rock > Hardcore & Punk
Indie Music > Alternative Rock > Hardcore & Punk > Emo

if they're not punk, what they, to you?

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:32 am

Chef wrote:DAMMIT IVE MADE AN ASS OF MYSELF
ill shut up about this if you dont make a "see, i was right" post

done

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:41 am

And all is well

I hate when shit happens over someone "misclassifying" something and pissing another person off.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 1:47 am

btw rozard, incase you didn't see it on the other forum, I wanted to make sure you got the message. For all the things you had to say to -ssj2gohan-, I say

Touche!

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Mon Dec 02, 2002 2:07 am

Touchè indeed 8)