Is Hip-Hop a fad?

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Re: Is Hip-Hop a fad?

Post by JustinCredible » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:12 pm

azulmagia wrote:Thankfully, they were one-hit wonders and are probably flipping burgers or something like that today.
Actually they had 3 hits... 'Warm It Up Kris', 'I Missed The Bus', and 'Jump'.

Hip-hop is a genre... not doubt about it. Just like Disco is a genre, Alternative is a genre and so on...

:goes back to listening to his Kris Kross Album:

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Post by TheLadiesMan » Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:32 pm

first off. rap sucks ass. 2nd order of business. old school shit is getting popular. i mean in all styles of music. metallica got popular practically overnight. rap has been around long enough that it can come back like old metal has. i do listen to music, but not rap nor old stuff. some old stuff is good and gave most metal bands an idea of what metal music should sound like. but pretty soon this shit is gonna die off. then 25 years later, all the nu metal and nu rap that isn't very popular now, will become old school and ppl will be listening to that.

this is just opinion. if anyone wants to start an argument, i'm all in favor.

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Post by NPC3000 » Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:59 am

I would have to say yes and no to this question. I don't think hip-hop is going to just disappear like fads do. It's become too much a part of society's entertainment for too long a time to suddenly fall dead. I can't however, see hip-hop music staying the way it is for decades, possibly even years to come. Eventually, the usual tricks to the genre will become old and one of two things will have to happen to hip-hop:

1. it will die out but it will do so very slowly and eventually it will be a thing of the past

2. it will expand in variability. New, original hip-hop artists will come and do their own spin on the genre and over time, they will be discovered by the mainstream and their music will overtake what we now know as hip hop...

...And then there will be many debates on what "real hip-hop" is and what "real music" is, for that matter, and certain artists will be accused of "selling out." And all of the people who apprieciate the hip-hop we have currently will whine about how hip-hop doesn't have the "soul" and "heart" that it used to and that it's all about making money now. And there will be underground hip-hop movements attempting to preserve hip-hop in the "pure" state that it once was. And there will be a series of retro movements in the mainstream, providing artists who do hip-hop in somewhat the same way it used to be. And then there will be a new hip-hop movement involving the use of electronic sounds. And no one will understand this kind of hip-hop as it's too inaccessible so it will never explode on the mainstream and will be only for geeky hip-hop fans who take absolutely everything too seriously...

...hip-hop is doomed

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Post by Kracus » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:10 am

NPC3000 wrote:and will be only for geeky hip-hop fans who take absolutely everything too seriously...
Just like the current music snobs that think rap and hip hop are crap that hold on to whatever they like to listen to as the best?

Hip hop and Rap isn't going anywhere, just like Rock and Roll and Heavy Metal didn't and aren't.

Look people who typically like Heavy Metal and rock and roll can't understand (or don't want to) hip hop and rap and those typically like rap and hip hop can't understand rock and roll heavy metal. Get over it. Most are closed mind and don't actually appreciate music but what they were first exposed to.

But just so you know Hip hop and Rap is international. There are Japanese, French, Middle Eastern rapper/hip hop artist. Get over it. You don't like it and can't appreciate what it brings to the table, just don't listen. Just Pop Rap is crap, just like Pop Rock and Roll, Pop Punk, Pop Heavy Metal. Saint Anger? fuck is that shit?

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Post by nailz » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:03 pm

TheLadiesMan wrote:then 25 years later, all the nu metal and nu rap that isn't very popular now, will become old school and ppl will be listening to that.
The reason 'Old School' metal is becoming more popular recently is because all of the new stuff being produced is trash. It went from popular to in-fucking-tolerable. It being the metal music as its produced, not the good albums of yester-year. Thus, as music got shittier and shittier, people started looking for REAL music. Before it got all synthisized to be overnight success.

People have the attention spans of 30 seconds, and corprate america didn't count on them getting sick of the music that was being shoved down their throat.
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Post by Pierrot Le Fou » Thu Dec 04, 2003 6:53 pm

nailz1000 wrote:rap isn't a fad. it's been around since the 1980s, and fads dont typically last 20 years. It's a perfectly acceptable music genere. but if it comes near me, I'll kill it.
Yeah I doubt that rap is ever going to disappear completely, but hopefully it will go back down to the street level and get back some of the magic it used to have. I dont think that 50 cent is what Tupac had in mind for rap music.
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Post by billy_wires » Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:40 pm

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:*snip*
I dont think that 50 cent is what Tupac had in mind for rap music.
Truer words were never spoken. I still like the old school, but the new age sex and drugs crap about people "from the street" who only know these words:
Fuck my bitches, count my money, and smoke weed and drink
sucks.

So, now I don't like it. So I think that it sucks. But in no way do I mean that other people shouldn't listen to it. Just that they should do it more quietly.
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Post by downwithpants » Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:23 pm

i like to wonder if today's rap fans will still be listening to rap a half century from now when theyre senior citizens, while the young listen to whatever will be popular then. eminem in the nursing home...

rap's not my favorite but i respect it as a genre.
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Post by Pierrot Le Fou » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:36 pm

downwithpants wrote:eminem in the nursing home...
I think that was in one of his songs, cant think of which one tho. Yeah I still listen to rap but I'm very selective about it. Like that new Outkast song, its just so damn catchy!
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Post by kthulhu » Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:11 pm

Fuck hip-hop. Every night, when I'm helping to close my job site, the radio gets turned to the hip-hop station, and they play the SAME FUCKING SONGS, REPEATEDLY, EVERY FUCKING NIGHT.

I'm tempted to cut the speaker wires.
I'm out...

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