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Post by ithaqua » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:02 am

Set_Abominae wrote: I except change in music, as long as it isn't degenerating the previous form of music.
Music is evolving. That means random change, not progress towards some perfect state.
Sometimes what would seem a step back is what's needed. The 80s had lots of crap, but it was constructive. It was experimenting with new technology (which you seemed to dismiss offhand with the keytar comment) which made music a bit more accessible, not to you as an audience, but to them as musicians.

Hey, I hate Depeche Mode as much as everyone else. But even Skinny Puppy drops their name as an inspiration, I take notice.
God, that Johnny Cash cover of "Personal Jesus" was just fucking terrible.

As for people knowing little of music, of course they don't. I don't know much about cars, because it's just a car to me. I can't be bothered to care as it's just a means to an end for me.
Believe it or not, that's what music is for most people. Just there for a purpose, be it dancing or rocking out or making out. So they aren't going to make the extra effort of finding new music, checking out side projects, finding out how equipment works, or researching music theory.

They're okay with only knowing the rudimentary levels of forklift operation. :P
If nothing else, harsh noises get your attention.
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Post by Set_Abominae » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:20 am

ithaqua wrote:
Set_Abominae wrote: I except change in music, as long as it isn't degenerating the previous form of music.
Music is evolving. That means random change, not progress towards some perfect state.
Sometimes what would seem a step back is what's needed. The 80s had lots of crap, but it was constructive. It was experimenting with new technology (which you seemed to dismiss offhand with the keytar comment) which made music a bit more accessible, not to you as an audience, but to them as musicians.

Hey, I hate Depeche Mode as much as everyone else. But even Skinny Puppy drops their name as an inspiration, I take notice.
God, that Johnny Cash cover of "Personal Jesus" was just fucking terrible.

As for people knowing little of music, of course they don't. I don't know much about cars, because it's just a car to me. I can't be bothered to care as it's just a means to an end for me.
Believe it or not, that's what music is for most people. Just there for a purpose, be it dancing or rocking out or making out. So they aren't going to make the extra effort of finding new music, checking out side projects, finding out how equipment works, or researching music theory.

They're okay with only knowing the rudimentary levels of forklift operation. :P
Most of the 80's sucked, save Peter Gabriel and the underground scenes (who have pretty much all been around, so I excluded them for the argument).

Music can't be compared to a car. There has been music almost as long as there has been language. Music is integral to all societies, everywhere. It's only of the sinlge most important art forms known to humanity. You can live without a car. But to live without any music... that's just a crime.

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Post by ithaqua » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:30 am

You're so projecting.

Music means that much to you. Not everyone.

It's like poetry - some people can live their entire lives around it. The rest of us only experience it in passing.
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Post by Set_Abominae » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:34 am

ithaqua wrote:You're so projecting.

Music means that much to you. Not everyone.

It's like poetry - some people can live their entire lives around it. The rest of us only experience it in passing.
But it should, because it IS important. It's not my fault the rest of the world is nothing but a bunch of uncultured bastards.

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Post by KhayotiK » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:55 am

Set_Abominae wrote:
ithaqua wrote:You're so projecting.

Music means that much to you. Not everyone.

It's like poetry - some people can live their entire lives around it. The rest of us only experience it in passing.
But it should, because it IS important. It's not my fault the rest of the world is nothing but a bunch of uncultured bastards.
It would be so ironic if you were to go deaf.
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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:19 am

KhayotiK wrote:
Set_Abominae wrote:But it should, because it IS important. It's not my fault the rest of the world is nothing but a bunch of uncultured bastards.
It would be so ironic if you were to go deaf.
I would laugh for days. :lol: And then attend his funeral when I was done... so I could laugh at him. :?
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Post by Set_Abominae » Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:30 am

What the hell is wrong with you people? This is the only board I come to where people don't get it and don't respect my knowledge and dedication to music. It's like I'm talking to brick fucking wall. Yes, I'm egotistical... because I have the knowledge and culture to be. If can't handle it, then it's your problem.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:41 am

:lol:

wut r u tlakin ab0wt guy
Kusoyaro: We don't need a leader. We need to SHUT UP. Make what you want to make, don't make you what you don't want to make. If neither of those applies to you, then you need to SHUT UP MORE.

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Post by Jnzk » Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:07 am

Set_Abominae wrote:This is the only board I come to where people don't get it and don't respect my knowledge and dedication to music.
/me respects teh authorita :P

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Post by nailz » Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:53 am

Set_Abominae wrote:Music can't be compared to a car.
But.. It can be compared to a forklift?
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