The American Metal Question

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:04 am

Before things get any more out of hand and people's hopes get too far up, I'd like to point out that Iced Earth is now based in Indiana. Still in Florida, though, is an occasionally similar band called Seasons of the Wolf, who are quite worth checking out.

Anyone who digs Fear Factory should also become aware (if they aren't already) of the immense contribution that Florida made to death metal. Morbid Angel, Monstrosity, Malevolent Creation, and Brutality are still active in the Tampa area, and Death/Control Denied would still be if main-man Chuck Schuldiner (who essentially started the Tampa scene and by many accounts did most of the heavy lifting to invent extreme metal) had not succumbed to a brain tumor in December 2001.

Albums I can recommend from this group are:
Seasons of the Wolf - Lost In Hell
Morbid Angel - Domination
Death - Symbolic

There's other good stuff as well, but these are the best mix of quality and accessibility that I can come up with right now.

--K

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:28 pm

Kamelot and Iced Earth suck. But a lot of people like them. I think they're booring.

str1ngcheese · Post by **str1ngcheese** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:38 pm

Dont Forget these:

Meshuggah: Nothing
Slayer: God Hates Us All
Slipknot: Mate, Feed, Kill, Repeat
Metallica: And Justice for all
Zao: Zao

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:26 pm

rubyeye wrote:It is part of the Viacom/CBS family which owns Paramount Pictures, UPN, BET, CMT, Blockbuster Video, VH1 and MTV.

So THAT explains why UPN and MTV are becoming more and more like BET! I knew there had to be a reason. When half the videos on MTV are rap, you know there's conspiracy afoot...

rubyeye wrote:Just the other day some Southern Baptist called Ozzy Osbourne one of Satan’s helpers. To me and you, (I hope) this sounds ludicrous, but millions of people take this nonsense seriously.

And most of those millions are Ozzy fans. When Ozzy bites a bat and calls himself the Prince of Darkness, you can't blame the religious nuts for sharing that view.

rubyeye wrote:While Lacuna Coil would sell just as well, we get Evanescence because they are perceived to be All-American, god-fearing Christians and America just loves Christ.

Actually, we get Evanescence because they can write 10x better music and lyrics. I've heard almost as many LC songs as Evanescence songs, and LC's best were still not as good as Evanescence's worst (not counting Hello).

In my opinion, this country needs less metal, less rap, and less crap-pop (Jennifer Lopez), and more medium rock and good pop (Ace of Base).

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:54 pm

str1ngcheese wrote:Dont Forget these:
Slipknot: Mate, Feed, Kill, Repeat

This is a METAL topic.

You cannot make another post so soon after your last, please try again in a short while

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:56 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:In my opinion, this country needs less metal, less rap, and less crap-pop (Jennifer Lopez), and more medium rock and good pop (Ace of Base).

While I respect your opinion, how, exactly, do you jusify wanting this country having LESS metal? thats like asking Antartica to have fewer beach resorts.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:19 pm

How? Because all the "good" metal bands (Iron Maiden, The Scorpions) come from Europe

Actually, IMO those two bands are rock and not metal at all, but that's a different story...

I think the reason why metal is so much more popular in Europe than in the US is because American metal (Metallica) sucks while European metal occasionally produces something worthwhile. America's Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie are totally pwnt by Britain's Ozzy, etc...

At least, I think Metallica is American...

Really. Look at the 50 most popular rock/metal bands of all time, and you'll find that 2/3 of them are from Britain. Not a coincidence!

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:50 am

there are many worthwhile bands of different sub genres of metal from the us, ive noticed most euro metal i have heard has been more from selected genres, norwegian area with black metal just to name one.

personally i could give a fuck less where my metal comes from as long as its good.

nailz · Post by **nailz** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:49 am

@Monarch: Oh, I was under the impression you wanted less metal in GENERAL in the USA. Not less bands trying to be metal. However, I have to agree that there are some really good metal acts coming out of the states..

Symphony X and Iced Earth just to make .. 2.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:35 am

nailz1000 wrote:@Monarch: Oh, I was under the impression you wanted less metal in GENERAL in the USA. Not less bands trying to be metal. However, I have to agree that there are some really good metal acts coming out of the states..

Symphony X and Iced Earth just to make .. 2.

WTF? What I was trying to say was that Americans should make less metal, which we suck at making, and more rock and pop, which we're good at making, and just import metal from the Europeans, who can make a good metal song every once in a while. I never said anything about bands "trying to be" metal...

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