What kind of music does everybody like?

MegamanTrinity(2001) · Post by **MegamanTrinity(2001)** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:57 am

I am going to be going to college to become a choir teacher for high school... I love all music but my favorite bands today are:
Linkin Park
Disturbed
3 Doors Down
Toby Keith (why dont they have country AMV's???)
Garth Brooks
Michelle Branch
well, i could go on, but ill stop there... lol

MegamanTrinity(2001) · Post by **MegamanTrinity(2001)** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:08 am

..... whoah, i just got a load of what you guys have been talking about, and im way way way out of the loop... um, forget my last post, and im going to just sit back and watch you guys fight cause im not really in to any of this stuff...
but i can say this, son_goten types like hes gotens age in dbz....

taeli · Post by **taeli** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:15 am

Jeez, arguy thread! There's a lot of rawr rawr rawr.

People should like everything

(embrace post modernity)!

taeli sez:
Mogwai - Trail of Dead - At The Drive-In - Godspeed - Sage Francis - Outkast - Madonna - DJ Shadow - Breakbeat Era - Stravinsky - The Pillows - Boards of Canada - The PAper ChAse - Dizzee Rascal - yeah whatever no one cares

er

pop classical rap rock metal TSALL GOOD! Except grindcore. Bad.

OMGBESTSONGEVER Kinda long tho.

taeli · Post by **taeli** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:54 am

Otohiko wrote:So, if you want to go there, let's talk in objective, measurable terms for a second. If you're so confident that I'm wrong, do find objective proof to prove me wrong. Find me something from within the rap genre that can be, by exact calculation, considered more metrically, or compositionally, or in terms of integrity in live performance, more impressive than my personal favorite 'rock' instrumental - King Crimson's 'Fracture'.

Not sure if any of them 'pass', but a lot of hip hop producers can be both complex and beautiful. I think you just got to know where to look. Short examples (boom bip and clouddead respectively). In fact, pretty much everything on this page is sweet. Although how far these desolve into electronica I not know.

I can't find http sources, but theres a lot of 'hard' rap with complexities too - mehbe try Plutonium or Selling Live Water by Sole. Not many of my friends like him tho - his vocals are fast and monotone. Hypnotic. But I do know that his live performances are phenomenal - I happened to see him live before I really knew his stuff, and he's a human dynamo. I found the whole experience completely overwhelming.

taeli wrote:Except grindcore. Bad.

WTF? Grindcore rocks!

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:24 am

ithaqua wrote:
son_goten wrote: ithaqua:
i heard a Tupac & Mr. Mister song
btw does anyone have some info about this band(or is it a single guy?)
Mr. Mister is a rock band from the 80s. Cheesy, but fun. I very much doubt you would like any of their stuff. If I recall, they've been on Pop-Up-Video, but I don't remember any of their song titles.

If you haven't checked them out yet, look at Teargas & Plateglass. This website has a few more downloads on it (scroll down to the last 4).

Here's an interesting twist to the story:

Mr. Mister's drummer was Pat Mastelotto - my present favorite and, yep, current drummer for King Crimson.

And Pat does take a cue from hip-hop in choosing many of his drum sounds...

Remember kids, everything is connected to King Crimson

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:30 am

taeli wrote: Not sure if any of them 'pass', but a lot of hip hop producers can be both complex and beautiful. I think you just got to know where to look. Short examples (boom bip and clouddead respectively). In fact, pretty much everything on this page is sweet. Although how far these desolve into electronica I not know.

I'll admit these are pretty cool - and I never doubted that hip-hop can be good. Technically, they're very nice - still not super-rhythmically-killer, but very good indeed.

The only (entirely unoffensive, as this IS good music) qualm I have is that I'm betting this would be pretty much studio-only material. I'd like to be proven wrong, but it does sound like it would be impossible live.

Again, I'd also place this under avant-hip-hop. Probably the proper way of describing it - it's too 'far out' for normal rap

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:07 pm

MegamanTrinity(2001) wrote:..... whoah, i just got a load of what you guys have been talking about, and im way way way out of the loop... um, forget my last post, and im going to just sit back and watch you guys fight cause im not really in to any of this stuff...

Hellz no. We need normal people posting normal stuff on this thread to reclaim it from complete uselessness. This is supposed to be "what music does everyone like", not "why can't some idiot from Israel understand that different people like different kinds of music".

Oto:
King Crimson - The Polyphony. Used. CD. ~$40.

Q1: Is this a good buy for someone looking to get into Crim?
Q2: If not, do you want it?

--K

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:59 pm

There is no King Crimson release named 'The Polyphony'; it is a bootleg

KC Live wrote:1982/08/04 Place des Nations,Montreal THE POLYPHONY; Rag Doll Music RDM-942005A/B

I'm not aware of KC issuing licenses to Rag Doll music...

****

So,
A1: No, definitely not. 1) Very narrow presentation of the 80's material, which I'm not sure you'd like (it's more pop-oriented), and most likely in poor audio quality.

A2: Certainly, though I'm broke again

Though with a big reservation: when it comes to live bootlegs, I'll be hunting them down forever online, but I don't really feel comfortable buying them. Knowing Fripp's attitude to them, even if I use this 'product', I don't want to support their producers. Hopefully, the new promised KC distribution system will make these obsolete.

If you'd like a good introduction to King Crimson, the best budget solution now would be to find Circus double CD (my own intro to King Crimson), which has excellent (and live!) renditions of stuff between 69-99, and then just grab The Power to Believe from wherever it's available to cover developments since. It only scratches the surface as far as the real 'hardcore' stuff, but it's a very good affordable presentation.

And that costs about $40 altogether and gets you about 3x the amount and a lot of x the quality of music. Not that 82 was a bad year or anything.

lostoursouls_666 · Post by **lostoursouls_666** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:32 pm

you know i was always mad to believe that rap wasnt music at all because rap fuckin sux its all about rock yea baby my fav bands are the following

Rammstein
slipknot
metallica
manson(but i like him very little not all that much)
E Nomine(may not be rock but they are fuckin evil)
Megaherz(never really heard all of there songs but then ones i have heard were fuckin awsome)
black sabbath
Korn
the beatles
Linkin park
Rage against the machines
red hot chili peppers
Nirvana
Pennywise
Black flag
A perfect circle
Cradle of filth(only heard like 4 or 5 of there songs but they fuckin rocked so damn evil

)

O damn cant really think any more my brain will fry if i think to hard
fuuuuuuuuuuck o well its been demolished for a long time now hahaha

Vlad86 · Post by **Vlad86** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:01 am

lostoursouls_666 wrote:you know i was always mad to believe that rap wasnt music at all because rap fuckin sux its all about rock yea baby my fav bands are the following

Heh, heh.....

Just wait till he and son_goten meet....

I sense an interesting spectacle on the horizon...