Rap vs. Rock

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:45 pm

This thread does not deliver.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:11 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:This thread does not deliver.

IT DOESN'T!!! O_o .. no wait you're right. -_-

Yunacat · Post by **Yunacat** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:09 am

To me, lyrics are the most important things in music. Who wants to hear about someone running into a wall with a cool beat in the background? That makes no sense. The singer's ability to sing the song is 2nd, followed by the BGM.

Rap takes little or no talent, and half the people who say the lyrics aren't really singing, they're speaking.

R&B is another story. They actually sing there, which i can respect.

In Alternative, Soft, Hard, and some Metal Rock, they sing, so that's why i'll listen to them (plus the instruments sound better than computer generated clicks and repetitive beats.) Also, every 9.9 out of 10 songs from those genre's has a point.

I won't listen to Rap because they speak, and i won't listen to Thrash because they scream the whole song, which is REALLY annoying.. > >

I can't even respect Rap though. I tried once. I can only respect Eminem's because his lyrics have a point (unlike most rap), and he actually sings most of his chorus roles. Other than that, i can't stand it. It seriously gives me a severe headache.

JOE_Greezy · Post by **JOE_Greezy** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:10 pm

Yunacat wrote:To me, lyrics are the most important things in music. Who wants to hear about someone running into a wall with a cool beat in the background? That makes no sense. The singer's ability to sing the song is 2nd, followed by the BGM.

Rap takes little or no talent, and half the people who say the lyrics aren't really singing, they're speaking.

R&B is another story. They actually sing there, which i can respect.

In Alternative, Soft, Hard, and some Metal Rock, they sing, so that's why i'll listen to them (plus the instruments sound better than computer generated clicks and repetitive beats.) Also, every 9.9 out of 10 songs from those genre's has a point.

I won't listen to Rap because they speak, and i won't listen to Thrash because they scream the whole song, which is REALLY annoying.. > >

I can't even respect Rap though. I tried once. I can only respect Eminem's because his lyrics have a point (unlike most rap), and he actually sings most of his chorus roles. Other than that, i can't stand it. It seriously gives me a severe headache.

This is quite possibly the biggest deposit of verbal diarrhea I have ever seen. Most rap doesn't have a point but Eminem's does? What a load of absolute horseshit, the majority of Em's songs are pitiful and are about stupid shit like killing people, raping people, drugs, insulting others etc.

The Roots, Talib Kweli, Immortal Technique, MF DOOM aka Viktor Vaughn, Deltron 3030, Mos Def, Common, Slug, Aesop Rock, Murs, Eyedea, Canibus, Dead Prez, Jeru Da Damaja, Wu-Tang, Jean Grae,Joe Budden, Masta Ace (these are all off the top of my head) all have a message behind their songs and are much better than listening to some angry guy rap about stuff that never happened to him or that he'll never do.

And rap isn't singing it's closer to poetry than anything and it takes a lot more skill than most people give it credit for. In fact if rap is so easy and takes no talent why don't you record a rap song (won't be hard it takes NO skill according to you) then upload it so us at the org can listen to it.

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:36 pm

this is why VS threads always wind up getting locked.

The original question: Rap vs rock, which to you prefer and why?

Why don't we just stick to listing some positive things about the genre that we like and leave it at that?

EG: I like rock because the stuff that I listen to relates to me.
I like rap because it has a raw edgy sound to it that gets my blood moving.
My favorite rap groups are Ithaka and Papa Roach.

See?

megaman917 · Post by **megaman917** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:22 pm

madbunny wrote:this is why VS threads always wind up getting locked.

The original question: Rap vs rock, which to you prefer and why?

Why don't we just stick to listing some positive things about the genre that we like and leave it at that?

EG: I like rock because the stuff that I listen to relates to me.
I like rap because it has a raw edgy sound to it that gets my blood moving.
My favorite rap groups are Ithaka and Papa Roach.

See?

Do you honestly expect such a thread, as this one, to exist, without some moron coming in and flaming and making idiotic generalizations about Rap music (or other genres), which they know absolutely nothing about; causing Rap (or other genre) fans to come in and defend, try set everyone straight, and indirectly tell the morons to fuck off? Come on, man!

Yunacat wrote:I can't even respect Rap though. I tried once. I can only respect Eminem's because his lyrics have a point (unlike most rap), and he actually sings most of his chorus roles. Other than that, i can't stand it. It seriously gives me a severe headache.

I've said before and I'll say again; you know absolutely nothing about rap.

According to you, Eminem's lyrics have a point. As much as I love Eminem's music, I fail to see the point in the songs listed below. Help me out here.
The Slim Shady LP:
My Name Is
Brain Damage
Role Model
My Fault
Cum On Everybody
As The World Turns
I'm Shady
Bad Meets Evil

The Marshall Mathers LP
Kill You
The Real Slim Shady
Remember Me?
Drug Ballad
Amityville
Under The Influence
Criminal

The Eminem Show
Business
Square Dance
Drips
Without Me
Superman
When The Music Stops
My Dad's Gone Crazy

Encore
Evil Deeds
Puke
My 1st Single
Rain Man
Just Lose It
Ass Like That
Crazy In Love
One Shot 2 Shot

Curtain Call The Hits
FACK
Shake That

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:02 pm

megaman917 wrote:Do you honestly expect such a thread, as this one, to exist, without some moron coming in and flaming and making idiotic generalizations about Rap music (or other genres), which they know absolutely nothing about; causing Rap (or other genre) fans to come in and defend, try set everyone straight, and indirectly tell the morons to fuck off? Come on, man!

Hey, I can hope.

megaman wrote:
Yunacat wrote: stuff
I've said before and I'll say again; you know absolutely nothing about rap.

You know, as much as what she (?) says is a generalization sometimes it feels the same way to me. Where I work, that's all that my students ever bring with them. So, sure there are lots of great artists out there... but that's not what I'm hearing clicking and clacking out of my students headphones. What I'm hearing isn't all that great and wonderful meaningfull stuff. It's like going to one concert say... Inland Invasion ( The Arcade Fire, 311, Oasis, Madness, Live, Jet, Garbage, Cake, The Bravery, Bloc Party, Beck, Inland Invasion, Weezer) and basing your entire perception of the genre presented from a few select acts.

So, intellectually I will concede that you are 100% correct. My real world experience is different though. Lucky for me, I get to pick and choose what I want to listen to, thus impacting nobody other than myself.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:48 am

Yunacat wrote:To me, lyrics are the most important things in music.

I sure as hell don't agree with that.. I hate the people that tell me they wont listen to music unless it has lyrics in it. Give me a break..

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:50 am

megaman wrote:
Yunacat wrote: stuff
I've said before and I'll say again; you know absolutely nothing about rap.

And I would also like to add nothing about music.. hehe

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:56 am

Koyashed wrote:I'm sick of people starting topics about things they know nothing about.

I know little about rock so I dont try to act as if I do. How ever I noctice that rock fans are pretty out spoken on rap, while rap fans say nothing about other genres of music.

srry.. no edit button.. soo. .TRIPLE POST!!

actually I've experience the total opposite growing up.