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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:44 pm

Tono_Fyr wrote: Aww, look at the poor little trolling retard, unable to begin to criticize anything because his mind can't articulate thoughts beyond "this is gay" or "This sucks", just like the rest of the death metal drones you find all over the place. If you're going to say that something sucks, list reasons WHY that particular thing sucks. And something being old doesn't count. Over-rated only works to a certain extent.

Why would I listen to death metal that all sounds the same? I mean, think about it, most of the songs follow a formula. Drummer, double bass, fast as possible, with crashes on sixteenths, rides on eighths, snares on fourths. Guitar, power chord whore for your rhythm section, and the use of big E repetitively works, too, and make sure the rhythm section completely overpowers whatever solo the lead can put out, because everyone knows having a lead that's actually hearable is TOTALLY untr00. Bass, one Note, really fast. Vocalist, kill your vocal chords, make every word you say scratchy, and either yell at the top of your lunges or from the bowels.

General, yes, but for generalization, general statements work. There are always exceptions, but generally, death metal all sounds the same. The same goes for each and every type of music that exists. The majority of it sounds the same and is completely unoriginal, and therefore sucks. but there are a select few that stand a few heads above.

Now, if you expect to get another response out of me, stop using your little "I'm repeating myself through numbering statements" method, and actually say something worthwhile, like WHY you dislike something, instead of just saying "it's gay, it's over rated, I don't like it".
Now, I'm not defending that assbag, but generalizing death metal blows. I could list quite a few DM bands that superceed those generalizations, but I'll save it because I'm quite sure you're too close-minded to attempt to listen to them.

Now, as for Pink Floyd: They were what they were. They were one of the originators of that acid-induced rock. They're overrated, but certainly not for bad reasons. Tribute bands blow, they just kill the legacy that Floyd had (and still has). What I'm saying is that they win, if you're into classic rock. Some people aren't. I'm not really into classic rock, but I still occasionally give Meddle or WYWH or The Wall a listen. I respect what Floyd did.
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Post by Tono_Fyr » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:55 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
Tono_Fyr wrote: Aww, look at the poor little trolling retard, unable to begin to criticize anything because his mind can't articulate thoughts beyond "this is gay" or "This sucks", just like the rest of the death metal drones you find all over the place. If you're going to say that something sucks, list reasons WHY that particular thing sucks. And something being old doesn't count. Over-rated only works to a certain extent.

Why would I listen to death metal that all sounds the same? I mean, think about it, most of the songs follow a formula. Drummer, double bass, fast as possible, with crashes on sixteenths, rides on eighths, snares on fourths. Guitar, power chord whore for your rhythm section, and the use of big E repetitively works, too, and make sure the rhythm section completely overpowers whatever solo the lead can put out, because everyone knows having a lead that's actually hearable is TOTALLY untr00. Bass, one Note, really fast. Vocalist, kill your vocal chords, make every word you say scratchy, and either yell at the top of your lunges or from the bowels.

General, yes, but for generalization, general statements work. There are always exceptions, but generally, death metal all sounds the same. The same goes for each and every type of music that exists. The majority of it sounds the same and is completely unoriginal, and therefore sucks. but there are a select few that stand a few heads above.

Now, if you expect to get another response out of me, stop using your little "I'm repeating myself through numbering statements" method, and actually say something worthwhile, like WHY you dislike something, instead of just saying "it's gay, it's over rated, I don't like it".
Now, I'm not defending that assbag, but generalizing death metal blows. I could list quite a few DM bands that superceed those generalizations, but I'll save it because I'm quite sure you're too close-minded to attempt to listen to them.

Now, as for Pink Floyd: They were what they were. They were one of the originators of that acid-induced rock. They're overrated, but certainly not for bad reasons. Tribute bands blow, they just kill the legacy that Floyd had (and still has). What I'm saying is that they win, if you're into classic rock. Some people aren't. I'm not really into classic rock, but I still occasionally give Meddle or WYWH or The Wall a listen. I respect what Floyd did.
If you'll read, you'll note that I said that there are always exceptions. I rather like Opeth and Dark Tranquility. I'm generalizing the standard for what the "death metal" sound is. Don't think you can predict me, friend. I have no quarrel with you, and you should know that I do like some death metal, I'm just making a point that there is a standard for what death metal sounds like, and, therefore, death metal is not any greater than any other genre by default (which dickwad contends).

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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:30 pm

Tono_Fyr wrote:If you'll read, you'll note that I said that there are always exceptions. I rather like Opeth and Dark Tranquility. I'm generalizing the standard for what the "death metal" sound is. Don't think you can predict me, friend. I have no quarrel with you, and you should know that I do like some death metal, I'm just making a point that there is a standard for what death metal sounds like, and, therefore, death metal is not any greater than any other genre by default (which dickwad contends).
I'm not trying to quarrel, I'm just saying that there's more to DM than that. Cynic, Atheist, Human or later-era Death, Hypocrisy, Obituary, etc etc.
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Post by Tono_Fyr » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:00 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
Tono_Fyr wrote:If you'll read, you'll note that I said that there are always exceptions. I rather like Opeth and Dark Tranquility. I'm generalizing the standard for what the "death metal" sound is. Don't think you can predict me, friend. I have no quarrel with you, and you should know that I do like some death metal, I'm just making a point that there is a standard for what death metal sounds like, and, therefore, death metal is not any greater than any other genre by default (which dickwad contends).
I'm not trying to quarrel, I'm just saying that there's more to DM than that. Cynic, Atheist, Human or later-era Death, Hypocrisy, Obituary, etc etc.
And I've said that there are exceptions (repeatedly, in fact). I've heard a few songs from Death from Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance. Good stuff, but, as I keep saying, there are exceptions. Your average death metal band sucks just as much as your average power metal band, or your average thrash metal band.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:00 pm

Tono_Fyr wrote:Your average death metal band sucks just as much as your average power metal band, or your average thrash metal band.
So if your intent was something as simple and generally understood as that, why bother making the statement? That's just like saying, "bad music sucks." To all the casual, jack-of-all-trades listeners, average bands won't do it, and thus will sound pretty bad. That's generally how "average" works, so there's no need to point it out, especially in a discussion involving people who generally know what they're talking about.

Integrate Satan is probably just one of those assfucks who used to listen to Madonna, The B-52s, Cyndi Lauper, REM, and any other pop that he came into contact with. But then one day he realized he was getting a little faggish, so he asked someone to point him to the "evilest" most hardcore music, and has since faithfully stuck to that genre. Once in a while he comes into contact with a metal connoisseur and takes bits of information from him regarding various other talented musicians in the metal industry, and claims the opinion as his own so that he can try to hold a reasonable debate, or troll-fest, with faceless entities on the internet to give his baseless existence some gratifying substance.
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Post by O-Kagachi » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:09 pm

My attempts to prevent a firestorm have failed..... Q-Q
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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:13 pm

Hey, that's my first and last word. It's par for this forum anyway.
Kusoyaro: We don't need a leader. We need to SHUT UP. Make what you want to make, don't make you what you don't want to make. If neither of those applies to you, then you need to SHUT UP MORE.

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Post by O-Kagachi » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:14 pm

Meh.. this thread is doomed anyways.. go ahead and flame or whatever.. I won't care.
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Post by NMEisMIA » Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:50 pm

Just call each other faggots and be done with it you stupid faggots.
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Post by lemons1991 » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:10 pm

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