Taking "trips" while listening to music.

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Post by Ph1l2007 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:15 pm

Kevmaster wrote:Infact, this is exactly why I listen to music O_o
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Post by Sukunai » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:41 pm

I like a lot of "old" music from my younger years.

90% of the music I listen to now though I only listen to, because it was employed in an amv creation.

I have zero interest in the radio, and even less interest in what's on tv in videos or mainstream.
I have simply no use for it.

I like that a lot of amvs make the ability to bugger off into an imaginary experience possible. Sure I like the humour creations and the dancy stuff too.
But my fav amvs have been the ones that allow you to escape the ordinary.

The songs I like the most, are the ones with the intensely romantic lyrics. It has to be positive, clearly sung, and beautiful.
I went through the 90s emotionally damaged. I have been using song to repair all the harm.

I sure ain't listening to hostile negative crap (also known as rap music).
Or harsh loud painful music (also known as anything-metal).
Anime, one of the few things about the internet that doesn't make me hate the internet.

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Post by 76 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:07 am

Ph1l2007 wrote:
Kevmaster wrote:Infact, this is exactly why I listen to music O_o
:D
Quoted a third time for truth.
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Post by Scott Green » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:49 am

Ijexis wrote:
Immorrel wrote:A bit of a digression now. Does anyone's mood get affected by the music you listen to?
Do I? Man, once I was feeling all tired and a bit gloomy then suddenly a Maximum the Hormone song came on and I just got all this energy back and started doing random karate chops around the place with a huge grin on my face, good thing I was by myself or people would have looked at me funny XD
NO, I would have joined you with some headbanging xD

There are various bits I enjoy my music:

Adrenaline: I guess that's self-explaining, I listen to some sort of hard rock, industrial, metal thing that makes sitting silent really hard mostly I'm picking these songs out of my collection and make a playlist or something.
Example: Mostly a playlist with metal songs and stuff like that..

Moody: Mostly those are the slow songs, majority of it is instrumental, like soundtracks or something. I'm connecting to the music much and definetly see stuff in my mind! (but seeing an adobe premiere timeline is horrible, happend a lot some month ago)
Best Example: Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts I-IV on a rainy train ride..

Trippy: Kinda like moody with the exception that it can be any song or style, it's like really switching of my brain and it's kinda like falling asleep without the sleeping part... mostly I do that on weekends when it's like 1-4 am or something. Mostly I'm listening one album a few times on repeat, just cause I don't realise that the album is already over .-. (note: trippy doesn't last long when there is daylight outside)
Best Example: A Place To Bury Strangers Self-Titled album at like 2 am

Most of the time these three mix up cause I like to listen to full albums and albums are well multisided

zomg Mr. Green gave an insight in his music habits o_O

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Post by Pas » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:11 am

Immorrel wrote:A bit of a digression now. Does anyone's mood get affected by the music you listen to? If my day is bad, I'll plug in a song I know will make me feel better. If I'm driving, I put something in that goes the speed I want to drive, or a fast song comes on the radio and my foot gets heavier. Any others out there, or am I my own special kind of weird?
Funnily enough, there have been a number of times when the reverse has happened for me.

For example, If I'm feeling depressed and am listening to some upbeat music, the next time I hear that same song I might feel some traces of the emotions I felt when I first listened to that song.

In that sense, how I see music is often dependent on the mood I was in when I first heard it.

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Post by Ph1l2007 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:47 am

Hehe, thanks for the replies. I feel a lot less like a looney ;)

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Post by Emotive » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:27 am

Some very specific music does this to me..

That includes, first and foremost, Tool..

I'm mentioning Tool above everything else because a lot of their songs have that effect on me, while with other bands it's usually just a selective few songs if not just one or two.

Amongst the songs that have brought some amazing, unique, godly images to my mind are: Portishead - Mysterons, Tool - Pushit, Air - Run, Sleeping Dogs Wake - Toys For Alice, Sleeping Dogs Wake - Sugarkisses, Pain Teens - Manuche (just.. totally wow.. after I listened to this song after years, seeing music from a different perspective, I was overwhelmed - that must have been amongst my first "music trips" along with Cocteau Twins - Garlands and The Breath Of Life - Nasty Cloud), This Mortal Coil - Another Day and Cocteau Twins... lots of songs by Cocteau Twins.. I'd put them right below Tool in the hell of images coming to my mind while listening to them.. So dreamy and trippy! Lots of their songs, at least from the Trasure cd, have some weird blue aura to them, I swear, it's so blue and it's so peaceful..

It can be rather nice being weird..
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Post by NS » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:33 am

Some songs will make me just REALLY think about the past and whatnot.. whereas most songs I actually go on "trips" imagining whole amvs for them... even if I REALLY don't want to and just want to listen to some music :O

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Post by Emong » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:46 pm

I guess it's time to analyze myself as a music listener. Never really done that before O.o Unfortunately I think I'm kinda lacking the emotion people get from listening to instrumental music or instruments in music. It's like, my guitarist friend sends me a metal song saying that guitar riff is amazing and well played yet I wouldn't necessarily have even heard it or paid any attention to it and when I do I just think "oh.. well.. it sounds nice.." Sometimes I wish I was a musician or at least understood more so I could enjoy instrumentals "professionally" and get much more out of them than I do now. I feel like I'm missing a lot.

I guess the fact that I don't know fuck about instruments has led to me like music that simply stands out for its pure outstanding "sound". Not to say this wouldn't be the case with all genres and types of music, but I think that's the reason I've come to like several electronic, industrial, shoegaze and noise bands. The thing with electronic music is I can personally more easily notice its outstanding characteristics if there is such. It's just easier for me to get into and like electronic music (whether it's industrial, trip-hop, electro-rock/pop etc.) for the simple reasons that 1) I like the sound of it and 2) it's easier to understand and digest for me.

And seriously, there's nothing more trippy and overwhelming than loads of layers of electronic beats, noise and distortion O_O I love industrial for this very reason. It's insanely rhythmic and layered (well, depending on the subgenre of course), works like an adrenaline noise bump. I can easily dive into it and turn my mind into a chaotic machine listening to it. Although, I always need the emotional human presence (underlined for the extra emphasis it needs) there too, so monotonic and repeatative music (like many techno or ebm bands) usually tends to alienate me from the song. Haha, I guess I like to balance on the edge of humanism and machinery there =P

I do love guitar though. It's still my favourite instrument, but I love it when it's used not as a guitar but as an instrument to produce sound. Many noise, shoegaze and prog artists do this with guitar, especially noise and shoegaze. The sound is usually altered, even to the point where it doesn't sound like a guitar at all, and distorted so it works nicely as a melodic and intriguing noise generator. So, opposed to electronic music, I also tend to trip to noisy and distorted guitars that are also capable of rhythmic and melodic hooks though. Also, what's great with noise and prog guitars is that the music often breaks out very clearly from the song structure into an avantgarde prog machine or drone soundscapes x] (Sonic Youth's "Total Trash" ...)

Another thing that stands out for me, or is perhaps even the most important thing, is the melody. Really, layers of industrial or noise rock would be nothing for me without any melodic hooks. Especially I love it when the melody is produced by human voice or just simply by singing. That's mostly the case with shoegaze music; the distorted and chaotic guitar noise hell is overlapped by really soft and melodic singing. It's trippy as hell, a heaven for the big escapist in me x] I also love melodic singing and hooks in industrial. Actually, many industrial or electronic bands I listen to would sound pretty dull without the singing.... Really, anyone who has heard Portishead's "Machine Gun" for example knows what I'm talking about o.o

But enough about the sonic aspects of music.. It makes about 50% of what I like about music. I've always thought good lyrics and good song make a fusion of good literacy and good music. I just need the human presence there in a literal sense. I just can't get the emotion out of the music alone. There are exceptions of course but usually good lyrics and good vocals make the overall experience a lot richer for me. It actually works the other way round too, since I don't read much poetry... I just need the music to get the emotion out of the text. Symbiosis O.o

Anyway, I don't think I differ much from the rest of the people when it comes to lyrics I like. It's like reading a good book. It's about relating to the lyrics and understanding them. It's not even always emotional, though I tend to prefer emotion over intellectual in lyrics. Of course, when they both meld in together is the best option =P I actually love it when lyrics get too deep or witty for me. That has happened a lot with Tool and HURT. They both seem to be constantly "ahead of me" whenever I happen to pay careful attention to the lyrics and their meaning. Though I feel like an idiot sometimes when I'm trying to get it all. Actually, I feel like an idiot afterwards when I've realized I've gotten it all wrong >_>

I draw emotion easier from situations I could try to relate to, which is obvious, though sometimes it's easy just to reflect emotional singing without knowing the lyrics all that well. I happen to be a really introverted person so whenever lyrics make an attempt to get in contact with the lower levels of the human psyche I feel like at home. HURT does this in excessive amounts and at times they get a little too deep for their own good. But hey, at least they try to understand themselves and others and heal the issues they've come to. Empathy is not really something every rock band out there tries to channel since they're too busy blaming others and victimizing themselves, which imo is propably worse than crying about your own problems all the time. It's just ironic to me that emo is so frowned upon >_>

Anyway, being the psychology and philosophy geek I am, I naturally prefer such themes in lyrics and everything in general. Though I'm also a person who has made a hobby out of feeling blue and isolated so such themes tend to hit me as much as smartass philosophizing. I'm attracted to sad things, there's no denying. Even my personality type desription tells me that >_< I'm not so aggressive though, so I just prefer my melancholia soft and dreamy. Shoegaze and dream pop work nicely for that purpose. It's different kind of escapism, or perhaps the most common type? I don't know. Music for solitary walks is music for me.

And the last thing I need to mention about lyrics.. I'm a very opinionated person, actually. I have tried to calm down shouting out my opinions lately though so I propably seem very submissive outside, even though I kinda hate it to keep it all to myself. But anyway, I have a problem listening to music that doesn't fit my ideology. I mean it, it's seriously annoying. I hate to listen to songs that are too aggressive or just... wrong? :lol: Well, I don't mean it that way, but still. Too bad a lot of industrial music is really aggressive and revenge-driven or other bullshit like that. It's okay to be wicked, but it's not okay to pull out your gun at school and shoot everyone, if you know what I mean? I'm okay with certain hate songs though. Hate is natural and healing in certain ways as a feeling (but not as a violent act), and for me, it's always directed at certain ideologies or the society (yeah I practice pointless rebellion like that) and not the people themselves. Hating makes me sad though. I get all teary-eyed sometimes listening to stuff like NIN's "Happiness in Slavery", Tool's "The Pot" (dammit, the melancholic part in the middle of the song gets me everytime) and Angelspit's "Girl Poison" or even "Homo-Machinery"... Not really something most people would cry to, I suppose :lol: But anyway, the bottom line is, the better the band's ideology fits my own, the better I like the music. It works two-sidedly though; sometimes the band gets all ahead of me and messes up my opinions, which is or isn't a good thing, I suppose.. But it happens, thanks to the constant state of ideological self-renewal I'm in.. I sincerely thank Tool for directing me towards existentialism though ^^

lol, offtopic? But yeah, I make trips with music =P

And plah, screw my typos.. And I feel like I got myself wrong now X_x

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Post by Ph1l2007 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:17 pm

Damn. What a reply! :D

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