Religion

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:56 am

Of course an asshole as big as me believes in God. What, did the fucking universe form itself? I say you need an even bigger asshole like God to make a universe as fucking wacky as this.

AquaSky · Post by **AquaSky** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:39 am

I'm a Christian. I'm also a scientist. Instead of being opposed to things like the theory of evolution, I believe it to be the means by which God created the different species. It's a viewpoint called Theistic evolution. Some people aren't able to reconcile science and faith, but I think those people are a bit too narrow-minded.

Also, it annoys me when atheists slam religion because they think everyone is out to convert them or to tell them what they can and can't do/say/watch/read. Most believers choose to live and let live. We don't get holier than thou or ride a moral high horse and campaign for censorship. It's a shame that those who take things too far give the rest of us a bad rep. One of the things that the intolerant followers forget is that Jesus loves everybody, regardless of gender/age/orientation/race/etc. When you read the scriptures, He was all about the acceptance. That was His example to us.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:03 am

DOKTOP KPbI/\OB wrote:Before you get religious, you need to get informed. Blind faith leads nowhere.

Now this is counter to the main point religion serves. Sure, being informed is all well and good if you're an intelligent person with empathy and compassion, but the real point of blind faith is dealing with the base, unenlightened masses. It's far too much work to condition a peasant farmer to be a good person with reason alone - so if you ingrain a fear of supernatural consequence in him, he behaves. Some people realize the stories are simply morality tales, some are incapable of doing so and brainwash their children into strict adherence to specific, often tangential, rituals and beliefs often perpetuated by leaders with strong political or personal opinions that they weasel into dogma - this is where branch denominations, sects and cults come from. The whole system then perpetuates by the idea that questioning anything is evil and that non-believers are to be shunned, converted, treated with hatred, disdain, or passive-aggressive false sympathy.

inthesto · Post by **inthesto** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:12 am

Anti-religion LOL

Ileia · Post by **Ileia** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:19 am

Orwell wrote:
The Surgeon General wrote:Or like how in one of the books, Isaiah or maybe Psalms, the writer is praising God, who he says is above the "globe" or "sphere" of the earth. Thinking about when the Bible was written, that was WAY before it was proven to be round.
The arguement I believe was more whether the earth revolved around the sun, or the sun revolved around the earth, and much less, is the earth flat? Ptolemy in 200 bc surmised it to be round, wasn't there a greek guy in 500bc as well? Though it was not conclusively proven until the voyage around the globe.

Right, I'm just adding to the pile. If those Europeans had read their Bible it could've saved them a trip.

inthesto · Post by **inthesto** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:33 am

If you're referring to Columbus, I think the debate then was whether or not it would be faster to "backdoor" it to China rather than navigate around Africa.

Dude lucked out that there was this thing called America where he estimated China to be.

ZephyrStar · Post by **ZephyrStar** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:42 am

I exist...so I'm spiritual, but not religious I guess.

Niotex · Post by **Niotex** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:31 am

I can't and will not believe in anything based off literature. Literature is too fragile to devote my life to. The bible/Koran have been rewritten countless times by power hungry old men. We as the current generation can't even verify what the "real" testament stated. Because of this we can't even verify anything that we've been thought. Science can't solidly confirm anything ever being written either. With that we haven't seen any indication of lets say a miracle in the western world for "a while".

I'm not even going to speak my personal opinion on religious people in general. As I'm pretty sure allot of people would feel offended. =|

guy07 · Post by **guy07** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am

Hm .... so most of you believe in something, even if you're not sure what.
As for what godix said, personalities are not limited to humans. Most species of animals tend to have personalities (and growing up on a farm, i can say honestly and with evidence that they do) if you pay close enough attention to them. So that's not limited to humans for sure. And as for who started the universe and all that jazz ... if you want to believe some divine being set things in motion ... what created that being? You could kick your self for the rest of your life trying to figure it out but you won't find the right answer. IMO, this happen because they happen. The right conditions eventually formed and the universe began. You're acting like the forming of the universe is something special, how do we even know this is the only universe? Hell, the universe is infinitely old. It could have started and died out millions of times already.
As for humans being so special, haven't any of you heard of the Drake Equation? It's impossible for us to be the only intelligent life forms in the universe.
Seems to me like most of you are putting us up on a pedestal ...

Unlimited Rice · Post by **Unlimited Rice** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:52 am

My family's really religious(hell, my uncle's a priest) and I went to a catholic school up until finishing middle school. So yeah, I've grown up believing in God and it's hard to like, not believe in God anymore, but I still completely understand if someone doesn't believe in him.

As far as being devoted, I just do the regular stuff like going to mass on Sundays and praying at night before I sleep and stuff. But I really can't get into like youth groups and stuff. It's pretty ironic how we're supposed to be all about acceptance, yet most of these groups have cliques in them. It's pretty wack if you ask me.