What kind of music does everybody like?

[Kai Stromler]

yawn....I should stop feeding the troll.

Notice that whenever this thread drops too far, good ol' son_goten posts again, because it's the only one that anyone's actually responding to him in. But I'll bite again, because I've got a few minutes till class.

Dude, if you've only heard metal from MTV et al, you're not much better off than us wrt rap. There are well-known underground bands in your country, and if you haven't actually checked Salem and their fellow scenesters out, it's your loss. As I believe I posted before, Fred Durst is not a metal musician. He's just a suck ass.

For starters, listen to EVERY TRACK on this page. These are the official sample offerings from one of the scene's biggest and most respected labels (though there's cool stuff deeper in the underground, of course, as well). This represents more or less the whole breadth of the metal underground; others who see lacunae (ha ha CM artist pun) in the list will no doubt fill you in. Perhaps Matador or Kill Rock Stars has a similar page, but I'll let somebody more indie link that.

Then you should read Lords of Chaos, and see that rappers do not have a monopoly on antisocial activities. Though there are less of them today, the churches are still burning in Eastern Europe, and there was a cannibalistic/necrophiliac bit in the news from Denmark just last year.

I s'pose I shouldn't have, but I posed anyway. Loki-spirit alive and well.

--K

[son_goten]

feeding the troll?
you stupid mofo
do you know how much time it takes to write so much?

i'll check out these songs
but do you fuckin' know what you're talkin'?
if these hoes burn something it doesn't mean they are ruff
do you even know what's "compton"?
it's where N.W.A (do you know this crew?) were all born
it's the biggest and ruffest place on USA it's all full of dope/whores/gangstaz/criminalz
any crime that exist it's there!
they kill steal sock or anything that is about "crime"
what you're sayin' is so fuckin' funny!
a couple of morons who call themself "Death/Black Metal"
brunin' some woods
death metal?
did they kill anyone?
did they ever hold a gun?
when you go to compton you can't even sleep from the shootings
in compton there are so much mobs you can't even count it by your fingers
do you know what you're sayin'?
get your facts str8 bro!
and check out "Boyz 'N' Da Hood"
and old movie
that talks about the ghetto(compton)
with Ice Cube(he was a member of the legendey crew)
it's a great movie and after you'll see it you'll see the truth

btw,Otohiko which instruments do you want?

[Otohiko]

this page.

Thanks for that link! Some good 'educational' listening for a break between exams...

Now... since I also got some time to waste

No, to be honest, I make no real distinctions between strictly instrumental and otherwise. Voice is just another instrument to me, as it should be. Instead, what I do like in my music is when there's good communication going on between musicians. This is one reason I don't always like rap. There's often too much emphasis on the vocals, and too much constant, unresponsive beat. Not to say all rap music is like this. But generally, and this is where it seems we have differences, I by and far prefer bands with a number of personalities within them sharing roles rather than one musician dominating the soundscape.

Again, just a personal choice. And not to say that's the only kind of music I like.

But if you got instrumentals, or anything of that sort... go ahead, throw em in. Since I've listened to ithaqua's suggestions, and am listening to Kai's stuff as we speak, may as well give you the opportunity.

Anyway... you don't have to prove anything to me though. I know damn well rap can be good; I know better than to generalize about music. My music views are really not a problem here, and I don't see them requiring adjustment.

[DDramone]

not a huge fan of metal but... i totally agree with Kai. not just about metal, but most every genre. from rap to regge, form punk to country, why let popular culture define it for you?

[FoolThemAll]

a couple of morons who call themself "Death/Black Metal"
brunin' some woods
death metal?
did they kill anyone?
did they ever hold a gun?

People who have never held a gun are perfectly capable of making excellent music. People who have held a gun are perfectly capable of making terrible music.

[Vlad86]

Vlad86:
that's a part of the definition of posers but it's not all
and the part on how much money you show off isn't that right
Shiny Thangs:for god's sake 'rap' iz not just 50 Cent!
i made my theorys based on a group of a LOT of 'Rock' singers

I don't listen to 50 Cent, and I wouldn't know what's on MTV since I haven't watched that channel in YEARS.

And I guessing you haven't looked at under ground rock artists?
It appears that we are both judging each others music based on the mainstream artists.

and believe it or not i used to hear a little bit of metal and then i found the right path
'cause it's all lies,and sounds like crap

No, not crap....

heh, Majin koji's catchphrase is ringing in my head now......

1.it's not ignorant it's the godamm truth!and i can back it up!

Truth?
Whose truth?
THAT is being ignorant.

2.Yes,i heard some metallica or wha'ever his name was ansd it's stupid as fuck

I don't like Metallica

did you listen to some real rapperz?
Nope!

Ok, besides, Tupac and Nas (I keep thinking he got his name after watching the Fast and The Furious ), give some names of "real" rappers.

the Only Rapperz you know are the onez that are on MTV and other sheet like that

Can't say I'm overly familiar with any rapper.

check out some unda'-ground rapperz and real rapperz
and btw which of them suck? gimme a list and explain why

I don't really listen to much rap in the first place, and rarely do i remember a musician that does not interest me.

3.lol,i love sleepin' k?

MMMMMMMMMMM......Sleeeeeeppp

I need more of that

i don't have any idea if they use them cause i never heard of these instruments
but they could have used it and i didn't know that

I doubt they do, as those are exclusive to the Blue Man Group.
Damn, those guys are so cool.

it's not just talkin' it's rappin'

I can rap.....word wrap that is

I kan k1ck h1s muh-phawkk1n azz
l0l

Maybe....

But not El Gato.

You kick El Gato, and he gets your cell phone number:

*ring*
"Huh? El Gato?"
*click*
"EL MEOW"


Compton?

What happend to LA?

Is LA *gasp* becoming safer!?

[jonmartensen]

feeding the troll?
you stupid mofo
do you know how much time it takes to write so much?

i noe rite? it tacks alot of efert to tipe thi sbad i hav to gob ack and "correct" miself too make it thiss bad

[Kai Stromler]

feeding the troll?
you stupid mofo
do you know how much time it takes to write so much?

Actually, no. I haven't been six in a long while (the last time I spelled anywhere near as bad), and my typing speed has picked up greatly since then.

That's the prob with doing research, martensen beats you to the good jokes.

do you even know what's "compton"?
it's where N.W.A (do you know this crew?) were all born
it's the biggest and ruffest place on USA it's all full of dope/whores/gangstaz/criminalz
any crime that exist it's there!

Like Vlad said...what the hell happened to Watts? Detroit? Washington, DC, the #2 murder capital of the world (after Moscow)?

death metal?
did they kill anyone?
did they ever hold a gun?

One of the unfortunate blemshes on the history of black metal is its musicians' tendency to murder people:

* Bard "Faust" Eithun, serving 14 years for second degree murder
* Kristian Varg Qisling Vikernes, serving 21 years for murder in the first
* Snorre "Blackthorn" Ruch, recently completed a 7-year sentence as an accessory to murder in the first
* Jon Nodtveit, shortly to be released after serving seven of 14 years as an accessory to murder in the second

And these are the ones that have been caught, and whose bands (respectively Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, and Dissection) have a large enough following for the trials to make the papers. Less famous musicians now playing with other acts are routinely denied visas (often fucking up major tour plans) for violent past actions.

Incidentally, the three murders described above (Ruch drove the car for Vikernes) were committed with knives rather than firearms. I know from unfortunate experience that committing extreme violence against people is extremely easy, but pulling a trigger from ten feet away is an inherently safer action than pushing a blade into someone's chest or skull at literal knife-fighting range. I don't condone their actions, but I must respect the vigor of their bizarre beliefs: when they kill people, they really do kill them in the manner of their ancestors, eye to eye and hand to hand.

I'll stop here before I implicate myself further. ^^;;;;

Much regards to all who found a track or two on the CM page to dig; those who didn't (and those who did, for that matter) might want to give a look here, which I've linked in the past but not recently. Especially for those for whom offbeat == cool.

--K

[Otohiko]

See, this is another good point. Don't make assumptions about people you don't really know.

And I mean, I grew up in a city with a huge crime rate (I'm willing to bet, in the world's top 10, near Moscow and Washington) and now live in what's rumored to be North America's pot capital (seems all of Ontario's 'home grown' funnels through here into the states).

But I don't see how that gives me license to be more 'real', etc...

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Meanwhile, I'll go hear more from CM. So far, Finntroll got my ear - though not to say the others are too shabby. I can't say I got a great ear for judging metal, but I can say there's definitely good music to be found there. For me, probably best in small doses

[ithaqua]

ithaqua:
i heard a Tupac & Mr. Mister song
btw does anyone have some info about this band(or is it a single guy?)

Mr. Mister is a rock band from the 80s. Cheesy, but fun. I very much doubt you would like any of their stuff. If I recall, they've been on Pop-Up-Video, but I don't remember any of their song titles.

If you haven't checked them out yet, look at Teargas & Plateglass. This website has a few more downloads on it (scroll down to the last 4).