timeless albums

Eilleen · Post by **Eilleen** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 11:22 am

Rozard wrote:In my opinion, it takes time for albums to become timeless, hence the name. An album can't become timeless a short while after it's release. If the popular albums you people named are still listened to, bought and respected in 5 years, then I will start to change my opinion. Until then, I stand firm that timeless albums are the ones that people draw their influence from.

Why? You say that you think an album has to be around for a certain period of time before it can be considered timeless and that it has to still be selling in five years... But then in the very same paragraph you say that you think a timeless album is one that people draw influence from. So would you be implying that people are incapable of drawing influence from recently released albums or albums that aren't popular in mainstream media?

"Fever" by Kylie Minogue is just as much as of a timeless album to me as "...And Justice for All" by Metallica is. Who cares if one came out last year and the other came out when I was three years old? I can't speak for everyone, but I know myself and my music tastes well enough to know the difference between when I'm going through a "I really like that album" phase and when I truly love something and know that I will be listening to it frequently in the next ten years.

kilik^ · Post by **kilik^** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:55 pm

In my opinion, for an album to be timeless, its doesnt need to have a certain amount of time since its release, if the album is well formed (good lyrical content, nice beats....) Creative and also if it broughts something totally new to the music industry, it can be considered timeless.

Pierrot Le Fou · Post by **Pierrot Le Fou** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 2:25 pm

Rozard wrote:
Pierrot Le Fou wrote:Three Dollar Bill Y'All by Limp Bizkit [Launched a whole new genre]
And what genre would that be? Whiny-white-rapper hardcore? If you're going to say Rap-Rock, then I'll say it was pioneered by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Anthrax, Faith No More, Aerosmith/Run-DMC and 311.

I never said "pioneered". Until Limp Bizkit, "rap/rock" or whatever you
want to call it was just a niche. The propelled it into the mainstream. At
the time that Aerosmith's collab w/ Run DMC was recorded rap itself was
still very young in terms of being part of the mainstream, and nothing
big really came out of it. Anthrax, 311 etc. are not what I would call
mainstream by any stretch of imagination. All I meant to say is that
Limp Bizkit made it mainstream.

Cardinal.jpg · Post by **Cardinal.jpg** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:13 am

Chaos Angel wrote:
Zerophite wrote:Radiohead - "OK Computer"

Cardinal.jpg wrote:Radiohead - OK Computer
OK Computer is fantastic. I'm currently listening to Amnesiac, which is also very good.

I'd vote thusly

Radiohead- Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer, and Amnesiac

I found Pablo Honey to be more Bluresque standard Britpop style, it is good but I don't listen to it as much as OK Computer and afterwards, I haven't got the Bends yet though.

V3n0m wrote: Spawn Soundtrack

I forgot all about this gem, I loved my copy of this until it was stolen, I was sort of pissed that everybody liked the Matrix soundtrack better and never gave this any credit, but glad in retrospect as I saw the songs off the Matrix get overplayed at parties and the like.

Another good one thta I forgot about was The War of the Worlds musical.
This double CD was totally amazing, I am led to believe that it was ahead of its time but I can't be to sure. Also even though it tells a narrative it can still be played over and over again and still have an impact. The "OO-LA" bit still freaks me out.

Tom the Fish · Post by **Tom the Fish** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:01 am

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:
Rozard wrote:
Anthrax, 311 etc. are not what I would call
mainstream by any stretch of imagination.

???? But these bands have gone Platinum. Most even triple platinum. That's pretty mainstream in my book.

Oh, well. You sat tomato, I say see-saw. Let's call the whole thing off

Tom

JustinCredible · Post by **JustinCredible** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 12:27 pm

The Crystal Method - Vegas
The Corrs - Unplugged

Pierrot Le Fou · Post by **Pierrot Le Fou** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 2:52 pm

Yeah the Spawn soundtrack was really a unique one, fusing metal with
techno. The Blade 2 disc did the same with techno and rap with pairings
like Paul Oakenfold and Ice Cube. It wasnt really that great tho.

Justin: Hell yes @ Vegas. The greatest of the short lived arena techno era.

gambitt · Post by **gambitt** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 4:50 pm

REAL timeless albums? Let's see...

Paul Simon - Graceland
The Clash - London Calling
Bela Fleck & the Flecktones - Outbound
U2 - Joshua Tree
Phish - A Live One

To explain, I'm basing this off the mindset that the term "timeless" means it's not specifically held down to one genre of time. Like, say, disco, rockabilly or even more obscure... New Romantics (*cough*). I'm also factoring in how much I've listened to the albums since the release religiously.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:12 pm

Tom the Fish wrote:
Pierrot Le Fou wrote:Anthrax, 311 etc. are not what I would call
mainstream by any stretch of imagination.
???? But these bands have gone Platinum. Most even triple platinum. That's pretty mainstream in my book.

Oh, well. You sat tomato, I say see-saw. Let's call the whole thing off

Tom

I love you Tom. Gershwin = \m/>_<\m/

At any rate, let me defend what I was trying to say, but failed miserably like I always do. I never meant to say that there's a set time in order for an album to be timeless. I'm just saying that it takes time for an album to become timeless. Back in the 80s, I'm sure some people though Kajagoogoo's album "White Feathers" was timeless. I bet most of you don't even know who that is (Except the old farts

), but they had the hottest song back in 1982 ("Too Shy"). Now where are they? My point is that an album may seem timeless, but a few years down the road is when we will see how timeless it is. Case and point: I saw Limp Bizkit's "Significant Other" CD on the Clearence rack at my local music store. If I wanted to, I could have been its proud owner for $1.05.

You can have your own opinions about whether an album is timeless or not. I'm just saying that you're wrong

Just kidding, I'm saying that my opinion is that time has to pass before an album is timeless.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:23 pm

I generally think of timeless as something that everyone can listen to. It doesn't deal with how long you'll like the album or how inspirational it is, it deals with how universal and meaningful it is.

But I also agree with Roz to some extent in that they usually take time to become timeless. But it is not by any means a requirement.