HARDCORE ONLY!!!

Brsrk · Post by **Brsrk** » Wed May 28, 2003 7:43 pm

Not this conversation again -_-;;

I will make sure and stay out of this one, except to complement on something or recommend something, but otherwise X_x;;

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:03 pm

el_farlo wrote:
Jace Tsunami wrote:exactly, you just proved my point.

drive-Thru = great (tho maybe not for you) but regardless there's also WAY better. Anyone will tel you that there's better.
just realize jace that you do not listen to real punk...

therefore that your recommendations are false =\

I listen to real punk, just not a whole lot. But yeah, mainly Punk Rock, new stuff, but not so much pop-punk.

I'll tell clarify that at any time for anyone, but it's a lot easyer to just reffer to punk rock as punk most of the time.

moooooo · Post by **moooooo** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:20 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:
el_farlo wrote:
Jace Tsunami wrote:exactly, you just proved my point.

drive-Thru = great (tho maybe not for you) but regardless there's also WAY better. Anyone will tel you that there's better.
just realize jace that you do not listen to real punk...

therefore that your recommendations are false =\
I listen to real punk, just not a whole lot. But yeah, mainly Punk Rock, new stuff, but not so much pop-punk.

I'll tell clarify that at any time for anyone, but it's a lot easyer to just reffer to punk rock as punk most of the time.

I'm definetly interested in seeing how you can clarify the difference between punk and punk-rock.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:28 pm

um they're two diffrent genres =/

that's all the clarification there is.

Old punk is like Ramones, Sex Pistals that type of deal. New punk is called punk rock. This includes bands like Goldfinger.

moooooo · Post by **moooooo** » Wed May 28, 2003 11:40 pm

Jace Tsunami wrote:um they're two diffrent genres =/

that's all the clarification there is.

Old punk is like Ramones, Sex Pistals that type of deal. New punk is called punk rock. This includes bands like Goldfinger.

Honestly, breaking it down like this is just silly. Obviously the sex pistols sound nothing like goldfinger, but to say one is punk, and one is punk rock is ridiculous. You can't make a seperate sub genre for every tiny difference between bands with similiar influences. How would you explain bands like The Velvet Underground who were old school, but lived punk lifestyles, or bands like Sonic Youth who don't sound like punk bands are "supposed" to sound, but have ethics and themes that are definetly punk?

Bah, all there is, is good rock, and bad rock.

Ugh, goldfinger makes me want to vomit. Bad rock.
VU...mmm good rock

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:00 am

all those punks bands that are questionable to any extent go under punk rock. Dude, thousands of people know this. I'm not the one that categorized anything. This is what it's called.

If you don't like it, can't really help you there. Just the way it is. =/

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:05 am

first off...just fuckin with you, second off...if its not political, and its being called punk, then it is wrong and should go under the generic rock catagory =\

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:09 am

but punk is about singing against athority. Athority isn't always the government. In better peacefull times, a lot of bands bitch about their parents, their school, the media. Goldfinger has some great lyrics, tho they mainly sing about the media and propoganda. But then again some bands like NOFX and SUM 41 are still able to sing about politics.

It all really just depends on who ticks who off.

but, it doesn't have to be political.

moooooo · Post by **moooooo** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:11 am

Jace Tsunami wrote:all those punks bands that are questionable to any extent go under punk rock. Dude, thousands of people know this. I'm not the one that categorized anything. This is what it's called.

If you don't like it, can't really help you there. Just the way it is. =/

In my whole life, I've never heard of a single person try and say that Punk and Punk Rock are two entirely seperate entities based on time periods no less. I guess us new yorkers just aren't hip

Seriously, don't you find it a little absurd that you have every band placed nicely into categories, and correct people as such when they don't agree with your specific categorizations. Hardcore, hardcore punk, pop punk, real punk, punk, punk rock...these are all terms that you used in this thread, yet almost all of the bands you listed sound exactly the same, but they have all different labels.

On a completly different note, does anyone else notice that whenever people talk about Punk, they go from the Sex Pistols, and then right to this 90's garbage, and skip about 20 years worth of amazing stuff. Just an observation.

Jace Tsunami · Post by **Jace Tsunami** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:19 am

punk, punk rock, and pop punk is all there is. If I sad hardcore punk or something I wasn't classifying anything, I was describing it. there are some band sin the punk rock category that are pretty hard, as to why I would use such an adjective

You're just looking for an argument, you'd have to be pretty dumb to not understand the stuff I've bee saying. It's fairly simple, and I've been going into far mroe detail than I need to.