Religion

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:55 pm

Yingface, PsyD wrote:You'd think that a topic would start at rock bottom with guy07, but Sukunai busts out the fucking jackhammer of retardation.

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NS · Post by NS » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:32 pm

DOKTOP KPbI/\OB wrote:
Yingface, PsyD wrote:You'd think that a topic would start at rock bottom with guy07, but Sukunai busts out the fucking jackhammer of retardation.
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I also like that his whole post can be summed up with the words "I'm an agnostic"

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:57 pm

PhysicianStrudel wrote:I also like that his whole post can be summed up with the words "I'm an agnostic"

More correctly as "I am nothing." Since agnostics don't know if there's a god or not, where as he said flat out there is no god.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:56 am

I guess I wouldn't mind being an atheist, but they scared me away when a bunch started this atheist movement on youtube.

They attack what my position is a lot, agnostic and make claims like we believe the easter bunny could exist.. then I started to see a lot of these people in this movement to be a bit loony and a bit close minded.

I think some of the worst things imaginable that have happened in this world were from people going off making concrete conclusion on things that don't have concrete evidence.

I only like to look at evidence, just because I think there may be a possibility of the spirit or god doesn't mean I will believe anything is possible that hasn't been disproved.. and that's my problem with a lot of atheists is certain logical fallacies they use.

Religions use this a lot and so does the media.

I haven't studied enough about reasoning using logical fallacies.. but I hope I'm using the right term to describe how they manipulate reasoning.

guy07 · Post by **guy07** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:25 am

godix wrote: It's fairly easy to know about the drake equation and realize it means exactly fuck all. But to know what the drake equation is and STILL believe it proves anything, wow, that level of idiocy actually requires effort.

True. It's just an equation. Until it is proven right, it means jack shit. I'm not saying aliens exist. I'm saying i think there's a chance that aliens exist. I'm the type of person who doesn't believe something until they see/experience it first hand.

As for Atheists being all emo ... I'd say i'm a pretty happy camper most of the time. And to be honest I'm actually sort of excited to find out what happens after life. Don't get you're hopes up guys, I'm not suicidal. I'm pretty sure it's just "lights out" when you die. But i have to admit, an afterlife would be sort of cool ...there IS that whole 21 grams thing.

NS · Post by NS » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:29 am

Atheists=Emo

i'm not even going to get into how retarded THAT concept is.

However I will say that, just like the religious Extremist the atheist extremists can be bad representatives of the general population.

P.S. To clarify my first statement, Because atheism is a belief and EMO is a genre of music.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:00 am

PhysicianStrudel wrote: However I will say that, just like the religious Extremist the atheist extremists can be bad representatives of the general population.

1) Again, my point that atheist vs. religious is not a true dichotomy. The accurate opposition here would be between theists vs. atheists. You can be atheist and religious at the same time.

2) The real problem is not radical thinking but dogma and inability to see past it. The "atheist" grouping here, I find, is far less prone to dogmatism.

BurningLeaves · Post by **BurningLeaves** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:25 am

DOKTOP KPbI/\OB wrote: You can be atheist and religious at the same time.

Actually I think that would fall more along the lines of agnostic, someone who believes there may in fact be a god or god like figure, but do not believe in one specific religion and doesnt pretend to know any of the answers.

To me religion is less about faith and more about rules. I believe its possible to not believe in god or a specific religion, yet to still be spiritual, believing in the super natural, some form of afterlife or a higher power.

People are always uneasy when theres questions that cannot be answered, such as what happens when we die, and how did we get here. Religion helps to answer those questions, or give some people a sense of security with a possibility that may or may not be true. Through the years I think it has been taken from its original intention of comforting people, to keeping them in line and scaring them into conformity.

Copycat_Revolver · Post by **Copycat_Revolver** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:34 am

I think that part of the problem (as far as atheists go), is that there is large number of people who call themselves atheists when really they're just angry at god/their parents.
They're not atheists, they just despise religion. And they are all over the damned place. "Real" atheists on the other hand seem to be few and far between.

What it sort of reminds me of is how, after the punk culture exploded into popularity, all across America you would see suburban white kids mangling their hair, sticking themselves with a bunch of safety pins, and calling themselves "punks" when they really had no understanding of the basic principles behind the movement.

The same goes for these "angry atheists". They're message isn't "I don't believe in god", it's "Fuck you mom and dad".

These people give real, educated atheists a bad name.

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:48 am

BurningLeaves wrote:
DOKTOP KPbI/\OB wrote: You can be atheist and religious at the same time.
Actually I think that would fall more along the lines of agnostic

Actually, it's more along the lines of turning athiesm into a religion itself, counter-intuitive though that seems to me.