AVRIL LAVIGNE

pink_hedgehog · Post by **pink_hedgehog** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:16 pm

staces wrote: All the Things She Said spoke volumes to many gays and lesbians out there even though the artists aren't really gay.

uhh theyre NOT gay? when did THAT happen!?!?!?! what else havent you told me!!

*Ahem* have you guys noticed that this is kinda turning into a live journal for our thread starter? you babysitting and your sister loving bacon has nothing to do with the topic, if you wanted a thread about avril and how much you love her music... then talk about it.

And again I realize that your just a lil kid but you shouldnt find the need to say that your an emo or a goth or whatever, and you dont have to say ok im a goth cuz thats what people say you are... if people can tell you what you are and what you arent then you especially cant be what these kids think "goth" is... being goth is all about being "hardcore" and being scary and different and if someone deosnt like something you do it more because your antisocial and mysterious... have you ever seen that episode of south park where stan is a goth cuz wendy dumps him for token? yea exactly like those kids!!

But just because someone says you are something doesnt mean you are. (unless its a bitch... then they might have reason to say it) It just looks like your trying to impress them. Like after CerebralAssamite wrote if its not metal it doesnt belong you started talking about being a goth. Its all a show, thats all these "goth" kids are, putting on a show so poeple will think theyre scary.

pink_hedgehog · Post by **pink_hedgehog** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:22 pm

R-A-N-M-A wrote:The Goths were an East Germanic tribe which according to their own traditions originated in Scandinavia (specifically Gotland and Götaland). They migrated southwards and conquered parts of the Roman empire. Two closely related tribes, the Gutar and the Götar, who remained in Scandinavia and are often called Goths, are separately treated, as Gotlanders and Geats respectively. The goths that moved to the continent were responsable for one of the earliest germanic incurtions against the Roman enpire in 267. There are were 2 main branches of goths who moved to the continent, the Orstrogoths who died out some time around 562 AD, and The Visigoths, who dissapeared with the invation of the Iberian Peninsula by the Umayyad Muslims, in 718 AD. Those who were not converted to Islam either assimilated into the Franks (and would later play pivitol roles in the Kingdom of Charemange a few generations later) or went off with the founding of the Kingdom of the Austrias that same year.

With that having been said, there are no more goths today. NONE! Nobody is a goth if you know any one who calls or conciders themself a goth, slap them until they are dead. Any one with tendanceies that are concidered "gothic"(and I use the term losely) by today's standards, and calls themself a goth, insults a very prominant part of European history.

thank you

(oh and bum? porcupine fart? awesome! sigged)
(and apologies for the double post-age)

staces · Post by **staces** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:28 am

pink_hedgehog wrote:
staces wrote:uhh theyre NOT gay? when did THAT happen!?!?!?! what else havent you told me!!

No, they're not actually lesbians and I think that both (I'm not positive) dating boys at the moment. The two girls were in a kids singing group in Russia when they were younger, and they both happened to be picked by their manager at an audition for a girl group.

To gain more popularity, the manager decided to give the girls a lesbian angle, and as we all know it was quite successful. But honestly, it was a manuafcutred relationship and it's been acknowledged by the girls that it was a marketing gimmick.

Oh, well. . . it was hot while it lasted! XD

Aaanyways, as for all of my other great secrets, those shall be revealed at a later date. Mwahahahaa!

pink_hedgehog · Post by **pink_hedgehog** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:40 pm

staces wrote: No, they're not actually lesbians and I think that both (I'm not positive) dating boys at the moment.

Thats about as confusing as my friend who came out as a lesbian, dated a girl (her best friend) for like 6 months and then is now dating this guy for like.. 2 years now .. I was like uhh... I thought you were all lez and stuff? *CONFUSED*

OFF TOPIC!! how did we get from Mahotsukai_Hanajima loving avril to whos really gay nowadays? I mean total subject shift... though its still a seemingly popular thread nonetheless.

But while we're on the topic of whos really gay.. and going along with my clique bashing: these emo / punker kids that all say theyre bi because it'll be cool and make them more different (but being all the same together) piss me off so bad. My friend has been with a girl who was like "I'm bi" and then when she got her alone she was like "eeeew two girls kissing".. pisses me off... Now the real bi ones... I have no probelm with them. And I didnt make a mistake up there saying emo kids instead of girls cuz the guys do it too... the guys from my chemical romance? made out cuz their emo girl fans think that its hot and it gets the band more attention.. good old marketing gimmicks. So emo guys do it too cuz they know that it'll get them girls.

The only reason I have a problem with fake gays is that I cant find a REAL girl to be with cuz they all do it so they'll get more attenetion cuz we all know thats what emos are out to get... pity and attention. Where I live, I know all the real gay girls and lets just say.. well I'll leave it at, just no.
*stopping with the unrelated-to-topic posting*
(>damn I really gotta stop posting huge things<)

R-A-N-M-A · Post by **R-A-N-M-A** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:11 am

WOO HOO! A quote by me ended up in some one's sig!

You made my very early thursday morning.

*ASIDE*

Today is Thursday the 18th of August officially marking the close of my 3rd year and the begining of my fourth year as a member of AMV! HUZZAH!

*BACK TO IT*

There is nothing that pisses me off more that people who do trendy shit and act like they are some kind of philosipher, it makes me want to run out and hang them by their necks from a lamp post with their own damned hemp hand bags!

Brsrk · Post by **Brsrk** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:37 am

Hey R-A-N-M-A, it's been a while. This year marks the end of my 3rd year too (in December). Nice to have ya back

Back on topic.

Anyone who classifies themselves or anyone else, I just want to beat their face in because it's completely stupid. Prep, jock and goth are the big 3. Oh how I hated being called a prep/jock my freshman year and a goth my junior and senior years. Just because I hang out with "goth" people doesn't in any way mean that I am one.

Mahotsukai_Hanajima · Post by **Mahotsukai_Hanajima** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:18 pm

... Oke.... Ive learned something! Im not that completely hopeless!!! I shall no longer classify myself like a fucking retard because they say its what i am or ppl around me say they are like that... And i wont post pointless concieted threads about pop artists that barely anyone likes anymore. -_- Dah ive been being stupid... ^_^ Well ill try my best. *does not mean i shall stop wearing my favorite color, black, though! I LOVE WEARING BLACK!!! But classification IS retarted....* ~Shea

pink_hedgehog · Post by **pink_hedgehog** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:44 pm

Mahotsukai_Hanajima wrote: ..classification IS retarted...

it is... there really is no need to classify people... When someone calls me a goth I say thats not what I am and they say well what should I call you and I always say I have a name, call me by that... They dont usually get it right away though.

Point is... dont classify people, if you classify yourself then youre just adding to the problem by being a dick cuz you think its cool to be classified as a "goth" or "hardcore." The "dont label me" thing is kinda anarchy-ish for my tastes but its the easiest way of putting it. I dont wear black so people will think Im a goth or group me with other people of the sort, I dress that way because I like it, it suits me, and I just really hate these perky, bubbly, giggley, blonde bitches and I would hang myself if I were to ever become one. And if you look "goth" to them.. walk up to them while theyre giggling and giggle too... they hate it and they run

Mahotsukai_Hanajima · Post by **Mahotsukai_Hanajima** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:31 am

Hm... Well put. ~Shea

staces · Post by **staces** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:30 am

pink_hedgehog wrote: I just really hate these perky, bubbly, giggley, blonde bitches and I would hang myself if I were to ever become one. And if you look "goth" to them.. walk up to them while theyre giggling and giggle too... they hate it and they run

So classification and labels are bad when applied to you, but for labelling everyone else, especially people you don't like, they're okay.