James Cameron's Avatar

[ZephyrStar]

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This.

[ZephyrStar]

Alright yeah, this pretty much sums up everything I would have said, but in a far more humorous and mostly rageless fashion. I lol'd my ass off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzKwTcGO_0 Part 2

[Otohiko]

Haha, at the start of Part 2...

"So ask yourself - how would all this have played out if the Navi just happened to look like this?"

That reminds me of why Kin-Dza-Dza is such an amazing movie - the characters DO look ridiculous like that, and yet the story is so good it manages to build up real sympathy for them through good plot and characterization, even though unlike these blue cat things they're kinda jerks and their civilization seriously sucks. That is how human-like alien characters should be.

Awesome analysis, I even get the logic behind Titanic-hate (I actually kind of liked that movie >__>). The viewer-manipulation stuff is definitely why I often hate movies or stories generally. When you can see it like that, it's incredo-irritating.

Haven't seen Avatar though, not exactly enthused to >__>

[Knowname]

I knew what was gonna happen in Titanic and ended up not liking it so much. I went into Avatar expecting something slightly different. While I was totaly let down on my expectations I can't say I didn't enjoy it... ofc I didn't spend the 16 bucks to get in lol. But still I think it's worth seeing IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, Oto knows what's going to happen, I wouldn't say it's worth him seeing now. I knew what's going to happen in Titanic, I didn't think it was worth seeing... on it's original release (I saw it at a discount theater).

Then again, if you take this criteria you'd find a lot of terrible movies worth seeing just cuz you don't know what's going to happen lol. Well that is one criteria and Titanic let me down wheras Avatar did not.

Anyway I think that review says it all well, Avatar is good and all, but not enshrinement worthy.

[Ileia]

bump to make Knowname wrong in another thread

[Knowname]

[Otohiko]

I like movies/stories where I know what's going to happen. That way, the writer/director actually has to work hard to impress me. I dislike it when the viewer is treated as stupid by virtue of not knowing what's going to happen - not to make blanket statements, there's plenty of well-written surprises out there, but in general, I really appreciate it much better when more of the writers' work goes into execution and 'getting there' so to speak, rather than just coming up with ways to twist the plot unexpectedly. IMHO a good story should not be about WHERE you get, but HOW you get there.

In that sense, Titanic wasn't exactly brilliant of course, but it wasn't bad.

[Knowname]

I just like the way he put it lol if you find a nice young girl and have sex with her in a brilliant location, heads up cuz some spectacular calamity is about to occur in the next scene lol.