Your Thoughs: Why are there so many differnet types of rock?
- xxDemonRinxx
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Your Thoughs: Why are there so many differnet types of rock?
Hokay, i though i would try to start something...hope its not to odd, but anyways. the question is: Why are there so many types if rock but only one for pop or punk or w/e? it's so confusing. i mean slipknot's rapcore then tools hard rock and apc is funky, WTF! its so confusing, whats ur though on this??
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Re: Your Thoughs: Why are there so many differnet types of r
first: punk ~= punk rock and has been around in one form or another since the early 1960s. I don't know what the hell "w/e" is, and I spent 3 years working in a ridiculously diverse college radio station.xxDemonRinxx wrote:Why are there so many types if rock but only one for pop or punk or w/e? it's so confusing. i mean slipknot's rapcore then tools hard rock and apc is funky, WTF!
second: Those genre assignments make my head hurt. Slipknot is the least rap-infulenced of the nu-metal horde, "hard rock" is much more often assigned to Aerosmith than Tool, and I have heard nothing resembling "funk" as any Parliament or even RHCP fan would understand it from A Perfect Circle.
answering the damn question: It has been almost sixty years since jazz and blues players in Kansas City, Chicago, and Memphis started playing harder, rock-and-rolling r&b. Since then, there have been major rock artists emerging onto the world stage from every inhabited continent. Given that time of development it should be obvious that AC/DC sounds nothing like King Sunny Ade, but at root, and from their influences, it's all rock & roll. Time + distance = diversity, in music as well as in genetics.
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Plus, isn't punk technically an offshoot of the rock movement in the first place, while pop isn't even a genre per se, but rather a lump of soft, easy styles that changed and varied a lot over the years?
Besides, types are just pigeonholes made for ease of classification. Many bands have sounds that are almost polar opposites, but get lumped into the same genre/style. And as a prog rock fan - boy, do I know about pigeonholing
Besides, types are just pigeonholes made for ease of classification. Many bands have sounds that are almost polar opposites, but get lumped into the same genre/style. And as a prog rock fan - boy, do I know about pigeonholing
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Why don't I see igneous, sedimentary and metamorphosis mentioned here???
Anyways, there is any number of categories of practically any kind of music. Just look at jazz or techno/electronica/whatever the hell they call it nowadays. I think it's less a matter of there being a lot of different types of rock rather than the majority of the discussions in this Music forum seem to be by predominantly rock listeners.
And I too have never heard of Tool described as hard rock and A Perfect Circle as being called funky rock, or even funky. Then again, maybe I just don't get out enough.
Anyways, there is any number of categories of practically any kind of music. Just look at jazz or techno/electronica/whatever the hell they call it nowadays. I think it's less a matter of there being a lot of different types of rock rather than the majority of the discussions in this Music forum seem to be by predominantly rock listeners.
And I too have never heard of Tool described as hard rock and A Perfect Circle as being called funky rock, or even funky. Then again, maybe I just don't get out enough.
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ty cause thats what i heard and i really don't agree with it all because its all based on their sound, as it should be, but w/ all the different names its confusing because alot of it sounds the same, well some does, and they could be under two different genres. that was just my point.paizuri wrote: And I too have never heard of Tool described as hard rock and A Perfect Circle as being called funky rock, or even funky. Then again, maybe I just don't get out enough.
oh and w/e= whatever..like w/ is with
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Dream Theater is generally described as prog-metal, while Tool can be described as something like prog-hard-rock or something (frankly, I'm still not clear on the precise definition of metal - well, at least what I think of as metal isn't what metal fans seem to think of as metal...). Both are generally placed in or near the general prog definition due to their obsession with complex musical structures and certain outside influences
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Prog: The style of music defined by odd time signatures and bizarre instrumentation. Shortened version of progressive.
Rock: A type of music which has evolved in the last 10 years, this type of music contains depth and thought and most of all talent. Not just screaming and loud guitars with a drum beat in the background, as most people presume, yes it has instruments, which is obviously much better than some girl singing over a beat which replays over and over throughout the song. Rock music is creative, imaginative and unpredictable. Fuck pop and it's culture.
Punk Rock: originally had a three chord sound. Everyone knew that the music was not important as the message.
Funk: A style of R&B music whose artists include James Brown, Parliament-Funkadelic (aka P-Funk) and Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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I don't really understand why people get so miffed about labeling music.
The way I see it, it's all music. Nothing more, nothing less.
Prog: The style of music defined by odd time signatures and bizarre instrumentation. Shortened version of progressive.
Rock: A type of music which has evolved in the last 10 years, this type of music contains depth and thought and most of all talent. Not just screaming and loud guitars with a drum beat in the background, as most people presume, yes it has instruments, which is obviously much better than some girl singing over a beat which replays over and over throughout the song. Rock music is creative, imaginative and unpredictable. Fuck pop and it's culture.
Punk Rock: originally had a three chord sound. Everyone knew that the music was not important as the message.
Funk: A style of R&B music whose artists include James Brown, Parliament-Funkadelic (aka P-Funk) and Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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I don't really understand why people get so miffed about labeling music.
The way I see it, it's all music. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Moonlight Soldier wrote: Rock: A type of music which has evolved in the last 10 years, this type of music contains depth and thought and most of all talent. Not just screaming and loud guitars with a drum beat in the background, as most people presume, yes it has instruments, which is obviously much better than some girl singing over a beat which replays over and over throughout the song. Rock music is creative, imaginative and unpredictable. Fuck pop and it's culture.
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Anyway, I think we elitists would have nothing to do or talk about were it not the fine print behind genre and subgenre and sub-subgenre definitions
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lol, I didn't write the definition I just posted itOtohiko wrote:Moonlight Soldier wrote: Rock: A type of music which has evolved in the last 10 years, this type of music contains depth and thought and most of all talent. Not just screaming and loud guitars with a drum beat in the background, as most people presume, yes it has instruments, which is obviously much better than some girl singing over a beat which replays over and over throughout the song. Rock music is creative, imaginative and unpredictable. Fuck pop and it's culture.
Ow.
All elitism aside, I don't find it cool when you get barked at for matching the 'wrong' genre/subgenre to a band/artist...meh.
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Re: Your Thoughs: Why are there so many differnet types of r
hahahahaha.... w/e is whatever.. but don't feel too bad, I had never seen it either, until one of my gay friends told me what it meant..Kai Stromler wrote:I don't know what the hell "w/e" is, and I spent 3 years working in a ridiculously diverse college radio station.
..not that I'm implying anything about the original poster...
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