Science and Faith

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:37 pm

http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellan ... 0faith.png

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BoingBoing, they point me to such wonderful things.

Anyway, this thing is short, sweet, and to the point in ways I cannot help but love.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Someone on Fark mentioned that the diagram on the right is missing the 'Be told what to think' step.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:00 pm

Exactly, and I don't even know if it has the "get an idea" step.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:07 pm

Otohiko wrote:Exactly, and I don't even know if it has the "get an idea" step.

Perhaps it should be "steal an idea"?

badmartialarts · Post by **badmartialarts** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:28 pm

Wow, faith is far more streamlined. No wonder it's the popular choice.

But my view is, if God was good enough for Einstein and Godel, he's good enough for me too.

(not that Godel and Einstein were shining examples of normalcy...but then again, neither am I)

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:45 pm

badmartialarts wrote:But my view is, if God was good enough for Einstein and Godel, he's good enough for me too.

(not that Godel and Einstein were shining examples of normalcy...but then again, neither am I)

Nor, for that matter, was Einstein exactly a shining example of theism.

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:53 pm

badmartialarts wrote:But my view is, if God was good enough for Einstein and Godel, he's good enough for me too.

This statement is far more interesting before you realize that Godel is NOT Goebbel.

badmartialarts · Post by **badmartialarts** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:00 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del ... ical_proof

And yeah, Einstein was more of a deist. So am I, more or less, although I think God CAN act on the world (which some deists dispute, Hawking in A Brief History of Time argues that God might not have even needed to be the Prime Mover. Talk about lazy deities.). Getting into my philosophy would take a while, and is better suited to like LiveJournal or something. Because I really don't want a Rwar here. (although they ARE fun).

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:10 pm

Einstein wasn't even much of a deist. His vision of God didn't line up very well with anything even vaguely Abrahamic.

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:31 pm

It's wrong to immediately dismiss either ideal offhand for your own uneducated lack of evidence. Science and religion are replete with self-contridictions.

We've observed as far into the construction of our reality as humanly possible, yet we have no idea how we even observe it.

And so, just to complicate matters in this so-called debate, I invite you to try some magic mushrooms or LSD, and see how well your beliefs in this universe hold up.