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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by Nya-chan Production » Sun May 16, 2010 9:41 am

OtakuGray wrote:Heres another one...except its not on the org unfortunately. :book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdM5Y3I ... L&index=75


It's VCAs winner |:

I also offer this:



(somewhat weak, I blame lack of stronger Noe scenes)

and this:



Some masking, but gotta admit it was necessary ;x
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by Nya-chan Production » Sun May 16, 2010 9:42 am

And btw, ChillOut uses some HEAVY masking, if you haven't noticed ;x
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by gotegenks » Sun May 16, 2010 1:34 pm

OtakuGray wrote:Can't argue with exsphere.
didn't really get it at the first watch, and it isn't even complex, it's hardly a concept, just brilliantly ranged focus on the relationship of two characters.
OtakuGray wrote:This might not tell a different story, but its still telling the original story really well ;3
so if i grab a techno song and pace the clips of an anime to fit into the song cut will you approve? i hardly see how this is original.
OtakuGray wrote:Story of this one just makes me laugh. Only masking (and i wudnt really call this "extreme masking") is the black bars :ying:
just because the masking isn't difficult or intricate doesn't mean it isn't heavy or excessive. IT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, and it was the object of the entire video. Not to mention the lyrics were blunt and as easy to understand as talking.
OtakuGray wrote:and chiikaboom. :awesome:
wtf? story? you confuse focus with concept. this has less of a concept than dreamer, this is random action without 80% of the cast.
Nya-chan Production wrote:

It's VCAs winner |:
like you said, had some pretty heavy masking, not to mention pretty blunt use of text to define the climax.
Nya-chan Production wrote:I also offer this:



(somewhat weak, I blame lack of stronger Noe scenes)
i didn't get the story, was it the story of the anime? it just felt like a random emotional video. it was good though!
Nya-chan Production wrote:and this:



Some masking, but gotta admit it was necessary ;x
...masking...necessary...to video's storyline? THIS VIDEO IS THE ULTIMATE BACKUP for what i'm trying to say. not ONLY does it have excessive NECESSARY masking, but it's got subtitles. Even if it is just the song translation (which i'm not entirely sure) it still defines the story and it's what the main character is saying/thinking (the only thing missing is the moving lips)
this story in this video is the equivalent to that of an illustrated children's storybook. If you don't understand it, you're probably LITERALLY retarded.



thanks for finding me support, i'm too lazy to get it on my own. |:>
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by Mally » Sun May 16, 2010 1:36 pm

*FACE PALM *
DAMN GOTE .
Die .

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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by OtakuGray » Sun May 16, 2010 4:25 pm

Mally wrote:*FACE PALM *
DAMN GOTE .
Die .
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/double facepalm

I see no further reason to continue this pointless argument.

Any further arguments are invalid.
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by OtakuGray » Sun May 16, 2010 4:28 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:And btw, ChillOut uses some HEAVY masking, if you haven't noticed ;x
The end is a custom animation from what i remember being told.
Imo, Its not necessarily heavy because it only happens at one part in the entire amv. Heavy to me is more like Empty Motion's amount of masks.
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by gotegenks » Sun May 16, 2010 8:49 pm

OtakuGray wrote: Quoted Image converted to link:
http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/offtop ... cepalm.jpg
/double facepalm

I see no further reason to continue this pointless argument.

Any further arguments are invalid.
/wins :ying:
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by OtakuGray » Mon May 17, 2010 12:13 am

/deny
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by Nya-chan Production » Mon May 17, 2010 9:42 am

gotegenks wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:

(somewhat weak, I blame lack of stronger Noe scenes)
i didn't get the story, was it the story of the anime? it just felt like a random emotional video. it was good though!

and this:



Some masking, but gotta admit it was necessary ;x
...masking...necessary...to video's storyline? THIS VIDEO IS THE ULTIMATE BACKUP for what i'm trying to say. not ONLY does it have excessive NECESSARY masking, but it's got subtitles. Even if it is just the song translation (which i'm not entirely sure) it still defines the story and it's what the main character is saying/thinking (the only thing missing is the moving lips)
this story in this video is the equivalent to that of an illustrated children's storybook. If you don't understand it, you're probably LITERALLY retarded.[/quote]
The first video was a story of the anime - but slightly changed, so the outcome is different. Love triangles are fun.

As for the second video - necessary masking as in "Hatsune Miku has no anime in which she appears, because in that case I wouldn't have to mask". And yes, the subtitles are translation - if I used English song and didn't use subtitles, you wouldn't argue, this is almost the same case (or in different way - if I was uploading this to Japanese Nico Nico, I would remove the subtitles). Though I agree the masking is a little too heavy - well, I wanted it to shine for P:E finals :+)
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Nya-chan Production wrote:And btw, ChillOut uses some HEAVY masking, if you haven't noticed ;x
The end is a custom animation from what i remember being told.
Imo, Its not necessarily heavy because it only happens at one part in the entire amv. Heavy to me is more like Empty Motion's amount of masks.
There's heavy masking throughout the whole video, like the yellow lines, Shinji shooting a gun, blood in many scenes - watch rebuild of Evangelion and then try again.
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Re: free critical opinions~

Post by gotegenks » Mon May 17, 2010 5:50 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:
As for the second video - necessary masking as in "Hatsune Miku has no anime in which she appears, because in that case I wouldn't have to mask". And yes, the subtitles are translation - if I used English song and didn't use subtitles, you wouldn't argue, this is almost the same case (or in different way - if I was uploading this to Japanese Nico Nico, I would remove the subtitles). Though I agree the masking is a little too heavy - well, I wanted it to shine for P:E finals :+)
well i didn't mean to insult your video, it's just that it's very easy to understand with the masking and subtitles.

but it was necessary to your story, like the futameat video, there are no episodes of FMA in which a penis appears (at least i don't think so) and they had enough respect for us to not mask dicks in so we have black boxes that imply the same.
if you'd have used any other girl anime character, outside of bebop's cast, then it'd have been the same, you'd have either masked em in, or had the different scenes spliced in with the subtitles...the subtitles pretty much make the story, so no matmter what you chose it would have been easily understood by the viewer.

The masking isn't a flaw, i just am not into editing like that, i wanted to make a different kind of video. I can back up every one of my effect choices with a representational reason, something it meant to the story, even if not bluntly stated.

Maybe i'll take the cop-out and say "YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN STORY" but in any case i didn't want to shove an emotional story (one pertaining to myself) down their throats (although that isn't always bad, it's nice to be read a bedtime story once in a while, and that is not a demeaning insult)

i have yet to find a video that does what i wanted to do better, not saying i did it the best, but i had a super-specific vision that i haven't seen done and am not even sure it's perfectly possible.
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