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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Orestes » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:15 am

Good: Well, it's quite some action we see there, Well synchronised, well mounted and pretty quick to watch. We will conquer them all...yeah, battle until you die, fight to the end. Your theme is quite easy to understand^^
Bad: This is too short, too...simple perhaps? I said it was well mounted yes, but I swear, random action amv like this one really isn't my cup of tea. Wht mak something mindless like this? There is nothing more mainstream like violence these days so one more vid on that subject means nothing to me, sorry.


And sorry for the double post.
but that wasn't much of an Op you gave me...
These next few things stick out to me as a couple seemingly smart ass remarks.

"Well, it's quite some action we see there,"
"We will conquer them all...yeah, battle until you die, fight to the end. Your theme is quite easy to understand"^^
A constructive thing? no wai.(still kinda smart ass though.) "Well synchronised, well mounted and pretty."
Understandable > This is too short,
Not so much on this> too... simple perhaps?


Kinda harsh considering is not a random action > but I swear, random action amv like this one really isn't my cup of tea.
(got some errors here.) > "Wht mak" something mindless like this? There is nothing more mainstream like violence these days so one more vid on that subject means nothing to me, sorry.

So I'm sorry but I didn't find those comments constructive in anyway so please give a better op next time.

Why do I feel like your that The Warrior of Destiny guy? :x
Your opinions for me are just about the same, but you were a little more detail than him but not by much considering it was someone else's video and not mine before.
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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Archeopteryx » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:13 am

I too, has to defend my opinion.

War is already a mindless idea, making an amv on someone who join the military and that fight until the end has nothing interesting or apealing,

That amv does not demark itself from a darn Bleach or Naruto amv,

Well synchronsed, well mounted and pretty. Your editing skills are fine enough to me, what do you want me to do about that? Im telling you to find some better ideas :sweat:

Too simple, yeah, just take some action scene and put them there, im watching something continuously boring and repetitive.

Why do I feel like your that The Warrior of Destiny guy?: What's the point of that and what does it mean?

Mp exist also.

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Orestes » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:02 pm

Archeopteryx wrote:I too, has to defend my opinion.

War is already a mindless idea, making an amv on someone who join the military and that fight until the end has nothing interesting or apealing,

That amv does not demark itself from a darn Bleach or Naruto amv,

Well synchronsed, well mounted and pretty. Your editing skills are fine enough to me, what do you want me to do about that? Im telling you to find some better ideas :sweat:

Too simple, yeah, just take some action scene and put them there, im watching something continuously boring and repetitive.

Why do I feel like your that The Warrior of Destiny guy?: What's the point of that and what does it mean?

Mp exist also.
You really...
don't understand editing, now your judging my video of just because of the "action and war" not as a whole...
so is it my fault that all you watch random action? You don't have to be an ass about it just because action is a "bad concept in a video to you."

I'm just saying since random action is so mainstream if you hopped off of the tube for a little bit and explored on here a bit you'll find that action is not a bad thing, nor should it be seen as one...

I'm done here since you have yet to give me any valid reasons why my video is bad other than
"Im telling you to find some better ideas. < ( not constructive in anyway.)

Too simple, yeah, just take some action scene and put them there, im watching something continuously boring and repetitive." < (also pointless and not constructive.)
(try again sir.)

But see thats obviously not how I planned nor edited it, so I'm sorry seen it that way but if you pay attention then you may notice that my video ISN'T ALL ACTION just half of it or less... It had a build-up to the action not just
/Video starts...
/Screaming,shakes,blurs and everything else going off.
Thats not how mine starts... ^ that is more random action for me rather than your "explanation" of random action.
and I doubt you've seen Evangelion...
So sure the story doesn't make sense to you sorry, but don't say its a bad idea simply because I edited an action video.

And I was asking you about that kid because he seems to have this same fetish for hating action videos even though thats all he's edited and I seen that you just join the org early this year so I was just assuming we have a little youtuber trying to throw down a good Op.(on the same day I argued with him even,about the same shit just a different video.) and you guys pretty much type the same way, it may sound stupid but yeah you guys pretty much have the same amount of sense (and grammar errors.) you put into any posts/comments that I've read from him so that furthered that idea even more.

I still stand that you gave a free/shitty Op with virtually no consistency in it, or anything constructive... just some mindless rambling about your hate for action videos.
So I'm sorry but I'm just not satisfied with the way you judge things, so could you possibly go into a little more detailed liek pl0x?
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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Hobo General » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:41 pm

hey dude, in the end you are the one that came and asked for her, true and honest opinion. she doesn't have to do offer us her opinion, so just because you arn't happy with the way a person reviewed your video doesn't mean you can bitch and moan about how unfair it is or how snobish she is. Newsflash, you will get bad reviews it happens get over it

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Orestes » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:32 pm

Hobo General wrote:hey dude, in the end you are the one that came and asked for her, true and honest opinion. she doesn't have to do offer us her opinion, so just because you arn't happy with the way a person reviewed your video doesn't mean you can bitch and moan about how unfair it is or how snobish she is. Newsflash, you will get bad reviews it happens get over it
I know that and is completely understandable, but still I just want more than a rambling about mainstream random action videos which pertains nothing to my video, thats not an opinion thats just bitching and moaning.
I don't want my video just to be judged just because of its action or not. watch it as a whole, not...
"oh well lets see here hmm alright these clips make no sense to me so thats a random action video."

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Hobo General » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:03 am

Well after watching the video I think i understand what she's talking about.

Your video is not a "random action video", whats actually wrong with it (and why Archeopteryx saw it as a random action video) is that it starts with a story but seems to push that story to the side when the action comes. for the first 45 seconds you have the opening to the story, showing the main character and him dealing with all the emotions that have built up inside him from 0:45 to 0:53 you have the transition period building up to the main part and thats where the true story of the amv is seemingly forgotten in lue of action scenes that are never used to help move the story along. this is the part of your amv that can fall under the category of and make people see it as a random action video. and i believe that is what Archeopteryx was trying to say.

Now to clear up any further contraversy on this subject, im not saying that action scenes are bad. the problem with the way they were used in your amv was there was simply no rhyme or reason to them. They never returned to the story you began to develop in the begining and at least for me that seemed to ruin the experience. My suggestion for next time would be to get inside your characters head. If you wish to outline there emotions then quick flashes of memories going across the scene as you show your fighting clips can help to portrya that, other times well placed text can also be used to display your character motivations and emotions and help to continue the story that you began.

Hope this helped

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Archeopteryx » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:05 pm

Yeah yeah, one day, you'll be Hokage or an ass.

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Hobo General » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:18 pm

me or the other guy?

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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Orestes » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:42 pm

Hobo General wrote:Well after watching the video I think i understand what she's talking about.

Your video is not a "random action video", whats actually wrong with it (and why Archeopteryx saw it as a random action video) is that it starts with a story but seems to push that story to the side when the action comes. for the first 45 seconds you have the opening to the story, showing the main character and him dealing with all the emotions that have built up inside him from 0:45 to 0:53 you have the transition period building up to the main part and thats where the true story of the amv is seemingly forgotten in lue of action scenes that are never used to help move the story along. this is the part of your amv that can fall under the category of and make people see it as a random action video. and i believe that is what Archeopteryx was trying to say.

Now to clear up any further contraversy on this subject, im not saying that action scenes are bad. the problem with the way they were used in your amv was there was simply no rhyme or reason to them. They never returned to the story you began to develop in the begining and at least for me that seemed to ruin the experience. My suggestion for next time would be to get inside your characters head. If you wish to outline there emotions then quick flashes of memories going across the scene as you show your fighting clips can help to portrya that, other times well placed text can also be used to display your character motivations and emotions and help to continue the story that you began.

Hope this helped
Damn I thought I replied to this earlier. =\

Thats just a tiny bit better, but still....
I wasn't aware that a story had to be obvious throughout the whole video in order to have one. =\
im not saying that action scenes are bad. the problem with the way they were used in your amv was there was simply no rhyme or reason to them. They never returned to the story you began to develop in the begining and at least for me that seemed to ruin the experience. My suggestion for next time would be to get inside your characters head. If you wish to outline there emotions then quick flashes of memories going across the scene as you show your fighting clips can help to portrya that, other times well placed text can also be used to display your character motivations and emotions and help to continue the story that you began.

Now see thats personal preference, if thats how "you" see the video thats not me nor is it how I seen or edited the video.
Oh yeah, If I did do the little "quick flashes of memories going across the scene as you show your fighting clip". (Again personal preference.)
You should have noticed I already had did that in the slower part of the video, now if I did that wouldn't that have repetitive?
So obviously I edited the slower and more upbeat parts differently, so that it wouldn't be stale.

Since its so difficult for two people to see that then. :down:
the problem with the way they were used in your amv was there was simply no rhyme or reason to them.
Also this ^

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean its that way, they do have "rhyme or reason" if you've seen the Evangelion series you would know that Shinji hates
piloting the Eva(and about his mother), so yes in the way I edited the AMV they do have "rhyme or reason" with the lyrics.

In the action, I tried to match most of the lyrics with internal and lyrical sync and with the beats I tried to match with fades,effects sometimes internal sync.

Now just so you know, not every single AMV is going to have an indepth concept or story to follow, you just have to read and watch what is given to you
and hope you understand it, like the editor did.
Obviously mine doesn't have an indepth story hence why it has action, I built up a brief story in order for you to try an understand the characters feelings then
I used the action in order to show how he used this "motivation" in battle.

Oh yeahhh....
Can we get a Lock liek plox?
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Re: Giving op for free

Post by Orestes » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:45 pm

Archeopteryx wrote:Yeah yeah, one day, you'll be Hokage or an ass.
I pretty sure she meant me
I'd rather be an ass who can explain himself,than some lame ass Naruto term. <3

Sorry for the double post, I didn't double quote both people last time. :oops:
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