JustAnOrdinaryPanda wrote:You took my comment SO wrong. I said that people here were over-analysing the series, and you took that to mean that I was oblivious to the many many references that are in there, many that are obscure and reasonably irrelevant. That I thought the show lacked these things at all. You're a bit quick to call people stupid...
You NOW say that it's up for interpretation and arguement, when before you accused someone of being 'just plain wrong'.
You're superior attitude and condescension is just getting annoying.
You just want your cake and eat it to, to use the old expression.
Yes... EVA is up for interpretation...the messages it talks about are complex and have been topics of discussions for ages and ages.
however...
like any piece of art, there are obvious messages that are there to help compose the artist's message.
You can't just go and say something like "Evangelion is all about the writer's hatred of chocolate", because there is nothing in the show to support such a statement.
There are messages in there that you have to read/grasp/understand.
Thick-heads like you argue that to look for these points is a waste of time... you accuse people of over-analyzing, but given the remarks you have made, it sounds to me like it's just more effort THAN YOU are willing to put in... but since I hang out with people who have put in a lot more effort than you ever will on the series... and because I have been shown many things that exist in the series that most would never have guessed at... and because I hapeen to have had schooling in the language of film, in philosophy and psychology... I have found many of the messages on my own as well. Obviously, among my friends, we all came up with varried interpretations of the show...
but people who just want to say "eh... Evangelion is about what I want it to be about" are simply being lazy in their thinking.
Most art has a reason for being.
Most artists have a message they want to give you in their art.
"Up for interpretation" doesn't mean it's about EVERYTHING
"Having an open mind" doesn't mean being accepting of everythying... it means that you are willing to consider things before taking your view on that thing.
If my manner seems "superior" to you, then I'll take that as a compliment.
If I'm annoying to you... well.. then that's good, because your lazy ignorance and desire to argue that people just should stop at a certain point rather than work with their minds beyond the point of minimal effort has been really quite annoying to me... and I've had to deal with hundreds of people on various message boards with that same "I don't want to think THAT hard about this" attitude.
That's why I hate talking EVA on these boards...
but this conversation had started so well and I was trying to pick up some new facts that I had not heard before and I was really enjoying the messages of the earlier posters
but then the throngs of the stupid had to come to the board...as they come to tall EVA threads and flout their ignorance
and demand that those who have put thought into the show are "over analyzing it"
or another common cry (because I have heard so many) that "we have been duped... that EVA isn't about anything and it was made vague so it could appear clever"
I have heard hundreds of various arguments that boil down to this line: "I hate EVA because I didn't understand it... and I'm going to blame the series for my own inability to understand it."
I don't care what you think. I have heard your arguments so many times before and it's nothing new. I say this because I'm not singling you out... you're just another one as far as I'm concerned. Another one of the many.
None the less... that's it.
I'm always happy to talk EVA with people who really want to talk about it and on many occasions I have given my e-mail address out. I'll be happy to take e-mails... but I'm just going to leave this thread.
I don't need to knock my head against bricks any further.
-Uncle Milo