Evangelion Prequel and other eva stuff

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:47 pm

meh? how many times does it have to be cleared up that asuka at the end of EOE is not a mix of rei asuka and misato

whoever came up with that load of crap is about as intelligent as the guy who said misato shot kaji.

As for the AT field, that's what the whole series is about

kaoru says that the AT field is the wall that encloses all minds, the 'wall of the heart', that which separates each ego and both causes individuality, as well as pain. It is instrumentality, when this individuality is wiped out and no at fields exist, that a world without pain can be. One could build an entire philosphy off of the AT idea, saying that perhaps the reason we strive to be so physically connected with someone is to defeat this boundary, the reason why when in love our bodies literally meld together to almost, but not quite, become one in the same.
Anyway :\

kmv · Post by **kmv** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:51 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:but you don't need the kabalah to realize what the AT field stuff was about.

No but you do to get the references to a butt load of other stuff. Check out the audio commentary on the DVD's - its cool.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:18 pm

I like Episodes 25 & 26, and End of Eva. Since all the events happened on one coherent storyline, you don't have to choose which one is better, or more correct. Just enjoy them both, if you can. If you have a problem with something, okay, that's fine too. But I thought both the movie and the last two episodes were excellent pieces of cinematic art. And we finally got to see Asuka kick some ass...

(nod nod) I guess that was sort of implied, but by no means do I think one is "more" right than the other. Was just stating that I liked Episode 25 & 26 since a lot of people generally don't (I like EoE as well). Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, regardless of which they like.

Daniel ^_^
Ninja Gaijin Productions

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:21 pm

meh? how many times does it have to be cleared up that asuka at the end of EOE is not a mix of rei asuka and misato whoever came up with that load of crap is about as intelligent as the guy who said misato shot kaji.

Yeah I've read the same "theories" and I disagree...a lot.

As for the AT field, that's what the whole series is about kaoru says that the AT field is the wall that encloses all minds, the 'wall of the heart', that which separates each ego and both causes individuality, as well as pain. It is instrumentality, when this individuality is wiped out and no at fields exist, that a world without pain can be. One could build an entire philosphy off of the AT idea, saying that perhaps the reason we strive to be so physically connected with someone is to defeat this boundary, the reason why when in love our bodies literally meld together to almost, but not quite, become one in the same.
Anyway :\

Good points! Couldn't agree more. I can already see some people reading this thread and shaking their heads since we're analyzing Eva. A lot of people (not to say that they're wrong) think there's nothing to it. (shrug)

No but you do to get the references to a butt load of other stuff. Check out the audio commentary on the DVD's - its cool.

Really...whoa I should look into this. The US EoE I take it?

Daniel ^_^
Ninja Gaijin Productions

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:25 pm

kmv wrote:
CaTaClYsM wrote:but you don't need the kabalah to realize what the AT field stuff was about.
No but you do to get the references to a butt load of other stuff. Check out the audio commentary on the DVD's - its cool.

will the buttloads of refrences change the overall plot? No, the plot will stay exactly the same, no amount of kabalah reading will change that, Hell I read all the info I could on the hermetic texts that hellsing was based off of but it didn't change the crappy ending.

ChronoDragoon · Post by **ChronoDragoon** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:26 pm

Yes, the audio track for End of Eva is excellent...but I think Death&Rebirth is the one where they give a lot of history about the making and such. For example, the Evas were actually modeled after Babylonion gods. See? I didn't know that.

And BTW dwchang, when I said "you" I wasn't referring to you specifically, but the broader form of you. Just sub in "one" everytime I said "you" to get what I mean. 8)

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:49 pm

And BTW dwchang, when I said "you" I wasn't referring to you specifically, but the broader form of you. Just sub in "one" everytime I said "you" to get what I mean.

Don't worry about it, I knew you meant a general "you." It's all good.

Daniel ^_^
Ninja Gaijin Productions

Jiima · Post by **Jiima** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:08 pm

dwchang wrote:The Movie Ending is a bit more cryptic and the scenes of the "new" Earth are disturbing. Ultimately though, in both cases, Shinji makes the decision to live his life and it's really just a visual difference (whether in his head or him physically coming back).

I could understand that Shinji wanted to come back and live his life, and that he felt it worth living, but why is Asuka there? That's the BIGGEST question I have. If you could end the film where Eva-01 is floating through space as the infinite symbol of man's existence... I would have been fine with that... We saw a new Earth created and the LCL that was collected into the egg of Lilith spilt back onto that Earth... implying that mankind was returned... with the option to exist. But the final scene on the beach just left me curious. Why has Asuka chosen to live... and nobody else has yet?

Jebadia · Post by **Jebadia** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:32 pm

who said no one else has.....

Jiima · Post by **Jiima** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 10:49 pm

Hmmm... Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.