Whats the better Anime Dbz or Dbzgt?

SSJVegita0609 · Post by **SSJVegita0609** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 6:45 am

ChronoDragoon wrote:I think about 30 episodes or so of DBZ was actually very good quality. Too long and drawn out it tended to be, with many, many filler episodes. The series climaxed at the Majin Vegeta saga, there was no way they could have topped that. Unfortunately they tried.

Agreed, the series ended for me when Vegeta blew himself up trying to kill Buu.

BishounenStalker · Post by **BishounenStalker** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:02 am

I do admit to being a fan of it for a while. Until it seemed like the new episodes were reruns.

For me the whole thing ended after the Android saga. Or at least it should've. Just long enough to introduce Trunks and re-introduce Red Ribbon. And I pretend Garlic Jr. never happened

And agreed, I do find the DBZ reruns have a higher entertainment factor. Sorta like G Gundam as compared to the rest of the Gundam saga (the other series ARE technically better, but G has way more entertainment factor). Sometimes I'd rather point and laugh than get my brain fried

Kracus · Post by **Kracus** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:09 am

In all technical aspects EVA is a far better show. However, I personally find DBZ more entertaining than EVA, and would much rather watch senseless, inconsistantly animated fight scenes then watch Shinji complain.

very true.

MAS PRODUCTIONS · Post by **MAS PRODUCTIONS** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:17 am

For me the show peeked at the end of the freeza saga. After that it just got boring and repetative. When freeza in my view point is the best villian of DBZ. If you dis agree here is where I am coming from:

1. He is self centered and only fights for his own purposes not anyone else.

2. He was not created. He was born and become powerful on his own.

3. Could not regenerate. This single factor made him the greatest villian. After they introduced the ability to regenerate, DBZ became lame. A true villian has enough power to not get his head blown off.

4. He had a purpose in life, unlike other villians Freeza actually wants to accomplish something in life. Buu was only created to destroy the universe and Cell was created for vengence.

There are many other factors but over explaining DBZ is a waste of time. To my original point, it peaked at the freeza saga and only become filler episodes after that.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:32 am

I guess first off, I don't like DBZ the anime that much since it's (IMHO) just filler and powering up and then maybe five minutes of actual content. I read the manga when I was a child (~5 years old). It's a lot better since there isn't ridiculous amounts of panels to powering up or long drawn out speeches. Those "episodes" don't exist in the Manga and they were only made because the manga book wasn't out to be animated. I understand this, so no big deal.

In any case, I think the overall "plot" and "fights" of DBZ is fine, but in Manga form. Essentially take about 5 minutes from each episode that is "content" and that's the manga.

As for the peak of the show, I personally liked the end of the Cell Arc the most. I agree with MAS about Freeza and his reasons, but I just liked the climax of Gohan becoming the new hero of Earth and surpassing his father. Also Cell had a cooler character design (IMHO). They could've (and should've) ended there since it implied that Gohan would protect the earth and so on. The Buu arc...well...no comment.

ChronoDragoon · Post by **ChronoDragoon** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:44 pm

I agree with Frieza being a better villain than both Cell and Buu, but I think that Vegeta is even better, because he is not a generic pure evil character. There are other factors unfluencing his decisions, not just because he is eeeeeviiiiiil.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:59 pm

MAS PRODUCTIONS wrote:For me the show peeked at the end of the freeza saga. After that it just got boring and repetative. When freeza in my view point is the best villian of DBZ. If you dis agree here is where I am coming from:

1. He is self centered and only fights for his own purposes not anyone else.

2. He was not created. He was born and become powerful on his own.

3. Could not regenerate. This single factor made him the greatest villian. After they introduced the ability to regenerate, DBZ became lame. A true villian has enough power to not get his head blown off.

4. He had a purpose in life, unlike other villians Freeza actually wants to accomplish something in life. Buu was only created to destroy the universe and Cell was created for vengence.

There are many other factors but over explaining DBZ is a waste of time. To my original point, it peaked at the freeza saga and only become filler episodes after that.

Toriyama did intend to end DBZ after Freeza.

Meksikanfude · Post by **Meksikanfude** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:59 pm

While Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and Trigun are among my favotire series, I have to say DB and DBZ are also one of my most favorites, mostly because of Gokou. I mean, sure, the plot sux (after the Freeza Saga), and the action is repetitive, but thats not why I like it so much.
I basically grew up with Gokou.

I mean, back in mexico before i moved here, I watched DB everyday after school. I mean, i was so attached to the series. When Kuririn died (the first time), i was like "O Santa Madre!

" or when Gokou first grew up, it was great. The years passed and I moved here to the U.S., where I got the dose of DBZ. While it wasn't as good, it was still great to watch my favorite anime character who grew up alongside with me.
Ofcourse, after watching 78 seconds of DBGT on the International Channel, I threw away my Gokou action figure out the window.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:05 am

How old are you? 'Cause if you're from mexico, I'm surprised you didn't grow up with Saint Seiya...

Caaaballeros del ZodiaaAACOOO!

Meksikanfude · Post by **Meksikanfude** » Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:31 am

El Banana wrote:How old are you? 'Cause if you're from mexico, I'm surprised you didn't grow up with Saint Seiya...

Caaaballeros del ZodiaaAACOOO!

My brother is 20, and he was the one who grew up with them. Im 16, and even though I saw it, i dont remember much of it.