Is anime racist !!!

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Post by azulmagia » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:05 pm

kthulhu wrote:You never heard of Hop Tsing Tao, then. The baddest yellow chop-suey motherfucker this side of the Mason-Dixon. Carried the scroll of his ancestors in one side of his robe, and a Colt .45 revolver in his other. It was said that his shots never missed, as he invoked the "Power Of The Thousand Thunder Dragons" every time he fired. He also taught kung fu to black slaves traveling north, in addition to tai chi and the secret of eternal enlightenment.

He also washed a mean load of laundry and ran an overpriced general store.

Racist? Yes. Expect the Hollywood film next year :? .
While this has nothing to do with anime, I think that they should make some new Charlie Chan films. It should be no problem to do it in a non-stereotypical manner in this day and age.

If Eminem used the "n-word" in a song, would Dr Dre pop a cap in his ass? If only black people can use the whole word, can mulattos say the first half of it?

Mr. Popo does look like he's inspired by Al Jolson in blackface. Or maybe Ted Danson.

And as for Mr. Oni's "yellow brides" comment. Oh dear. :? :? :? :?

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Post by D-solve » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:34 pm

I watched a lot of sick staff in anima incest, gay, lesbian, and much more but no racist ...Tradicional Japan treated every outsider the same as barbarians. Thank god that changed.

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Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:36 pm

D-solve wrote:I watched a lot of sick staff in anima incest, gay, lesbian, and much more but no racist ...Tradicional Japan treated every outsider the same as barbarians. Thank god that changed.

No one goes by trandition, if we did,

Christians would'nt learn,
Chinese would own the japanese,
American's would be ruled under the queen,
And,
My grandmother would still be making fruitcakes (sorry granny :( ).

Thank God Trandition changes indeed.
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Post by pyro_256 » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:29 pm

tradition is the word. that n you threw in doesn't belong. trandition is not a word.

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Post by Mroni » Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:46 pm

azulmagia wrote:
kthulhu wrote:You never heard of Hop Tsing Tao, then. The baddest yellow chop-suey motherfucker this side of the Mason-Dixon. Carried the scroll of his ancestors in one side of his robe, and a Colt .45 revolver in his other. It was said that his shots never missed, as he invoked the "Power Of The Thousand Thunder Dragons" every time he fired. He also taught kung fu to black slaves traveling north, in addition to tai chi and the secret of eternal enlightenment.

He also washed a mean load of laundry and ran an overpriced general store.

Racist? Yes. Expect the Hollywood film next year :? .
While this has nothing to do with anime, I think that they should make some new Charlie Chan films. It should be no problem to do it in a non-stereotypical manner in this day and age.

If Eminem used the "n-word" in a song, would Dr Dre pop a cap in his ass? If only black people can use the whole word, can mulattos say the first half of it?

Mr. Popo does look like he's inspired by Al Jolson in blackface. Or maybe Ted Danson.

And as for Mr. Oni's "yellow brides" comment. Oh dear. :? :? :? :?
Whats wrong with wanting an oriental chick??? They are hot. But I am torn
I like natural red heads and Asian chicks which one to choose???


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Post by azulmagia » Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:31 pm

Mroni wrote:Whats wrong with wanting an oriental chick??? They are hot. But I am torn
I like natural red heads and Asian chicks which one to choose???


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Red heads, red heads.

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Re: Is anime racist !!!

Post by CinnaMocha » Fri Dec 26, 2003 1:42 am

narcted wrote:The lack of blacks in anime is both the lacking ethnic population in Japan and also of production practicality. Blacks are actually difficult to animate. It's the hair. It's usually so short and curly and requires too much drawing on each frame. Long straight hair is easier.

Example: The title character of Nadia: Secret of Blue Water was originally drawn as an African with curly hair. It was actually kinda 'poofy' on the sides. Gainax discovered in test animation that it was too dificult to animate head movements with the curly hair. So they changed the character sketch so Nadia had straight hair. Nadia is generally recognized as being of African origin.

The big lips is also a production neccesity. With dark skin on the face, you need to highlight the borders of the mouth so people can see lip movement, as the usually pinkish mouth interior does not contrast as well as it does with paler skin tones. With paler faces, viewers can make out the black lines that define the mouth.
I generally agree with you, except for two things:

1) Although I know I do not represent the majority of black people, my hair is long and straight. And, living in a predominantly black area, I know a lot of other girls whose hair is long and straight (or short and straight). Although our hair is naturally curlier and poofier, some of us get chemical treatments, the same way anyone else can to make curly hair. And some of us do have naturally straight long hair.

2) Black lines, although not as visible, does show up on brown drawn complexions, especially lighter ones. Even with the "production necessity", though, lips on black people in anime tend to be more exaggerated than need be. There are cartoons that have black characters on them in which the lips are larger than the other characters' -- rightfully so, because black people's lips are generally bigger -- but not in a vaudeville style.

I prefer to go with the explanation that there is a lack of ethnic population in Japan. :D

And I know that I am a sap to address this, but I am not an ugly girl and I do care about sexism, because sexism puts my free will in jeopardy. Most females care about sexism, probably even the Asian ones you so love.

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Post by JFF » Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:34 am

anime can't be racist

people are racist.
You are completely useless.

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Post by J-0080 » Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:39 am

But anime is drawn by people.
paizuri wrote:There's also no need for introductions because we're generally a friendly bunch and will welcome you with wide open arms anyway.

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Post by JFF » Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:51 am

so what? are you gonna blame the anime?

are you gonna file racism and hatemongering charges against the cartoon or the people who made it??
You are completely useless.

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