FLCL

[Twilight_Bringer]

I wasn't talking to you smart guy, I was talking to Twilight Bringer. Everything isn't about you, just because I didn't mention specifically who I was talking to is no cause for you to assume I was talking to you.

you were talking to me?... about what if you don't mind me asking... sorry if i offened you in anyway... i'm not really a people-person... i'm more independent... but anyways... yeah...

[Alucard_FoN]

I wasn't talking to you smart guy, I was talking to Twilight Bringer. Everything isn't about you, just because I didn't mention specifically who I was talking to is no cause for you to assume I was talking to you.

you were talking to me?... about what if you don't mind me asking... sorry if i offened you in anyway... i'm not really a people-person... i'm more independent... but anyways... yeah...

You didn't offend me, I was basically trying to point out that you're saying "They can't make a second series of Cowboy Bebop" without offering any evidence of why it would be impossible was sort of... well, insulting to Uncle Milo after all the effort he put into making a good case about why they could make a second series. At least, I would have been slightly angry if it had been me instead of him.

I probably should have just not typed anything but it bothers me when people make an assertion anmd fail to back it up with anything.

[Cloud Clone]

Is this a necro-post? Um, anyways, I'm a fan of FLCL and I didn't want to go through the whole thread reading stuff but I'm a fan of FLCL even though I didn't quite get it.
Where did the robot come?

What was the iron really supposed to be?

What made Nauta special from everyone else?

Why did his brother's (ex?) friend hang on him all the time?

Just a few questions.

[kearlywi]

Yeah I know this is an old thread but what the hell.

FLCL can have no more episodes. It is a complete package and would suffer the fate over an over extended show if more were added.

I suppose a part 2 could be made for when Naota is older, but that could get real wrong real fast.

If six episodes is not enough you are not watching the artistic detail.

The art is the key to everything, small details like symbols on hats, hair styles, attitudes, and background movement create the inner psychological drama.

If you want a real trip try the manga. I image if you're not as strange as me it will not make any sense.

If you don't like FLCL you don't understand it.

The main plot is to defy the norms of society.

Sub-Plots Include:
Adolescence
Explicit Content
Art (including many references to shows like Lupin and South Park)
Rebellion (Rock always inspires that)
and of couse
Transending society the machine of society. Most people become a cog in the machine of society, but Naota transends the mass by becoming part of a machine (Lord Kanchi).

I absolutely agree there shouldnt be any more episodes of FLCL. Why do that when the first was neatly wrapped up and that time/money could be spent making another totally original anime that uses the same creative abilities?

I dont like FLCL. I have a long and painstaking explaination of why on another thread that I posted earlier tonight. But I will admit it was extremely creative. Taking on another 6, 13 or 26 episodes would stretch the anime thin, and would detract from the original series potency.

As far as your comments about Not liking FLCL equating to not understanding it, I would have to agree, but then again, I understand the show better than my friends do, and they love the show. I thought the main plot was well explained in the last episode, and in this regard there are no major holes. FLCL had a lot of things that looked symbolic, but were really just fun nonsense, or to put it more technically, wacky expressionist elements (expressionism means images that are powerful and even suggestive but have no concrete meanings, and sometimes no intended meanings).

One of my friends at Colorado State University is a gifted artist. His drawings look as if they came from a very well drawn american comic book, so when I first saw them, I assumed he had paid a famous comic book artist to draw them for him. His pictures are very beautiful, are very detailed, and are unusual in nature. One of his drawings was a Mayan Warrior riding a tiger on the great african plains, details such as the tall grasses and setting sun were very beautiful and really set the atmosphere for the image. We talked at length about his drawings once, and he mentioned whenever people saw his drawings, they would interpret them. Some might guess that the named image was a representation of him being a black man living in America who happened to like asian things (i.e. anime). Most other interpretations were much deeper than the simple short example I just gave. So I asked him: "What is the real meaning of your drawings?" He said; "There is no meaning. I saw this beautiful image and I had to draw it."

I suspect that this is what happened to the creator of FLCL, except on a much grander scale. He might have had a dream, did some crack, who knows, but this anime probably raced into his head, and he found it so beautiful that he had to recreate it. I really doubt this guy structured all this madness in a brainstorming session, it had to have been inspired, it just oozes with creativity, and creativity is a muse. The details are probably all just reflections of his personality or his creative mind.

If there is any message its probably coincidental. What do we gain from defying the norms of society? Is it good or bad? (I'd say bad cause I wouldnt want to go through what Naota went through). Adolescence, Explicit Content, Art, and rebellion are not sub-plots. They are just what they are, expressionist elements. Elements that the creator used to make his tale more colorful.

the machine of society. Most people become a cog in the machine of society, but Naota transends the mass by becoming part of a machine

I mean no disrespect, but think about what is being said right here. You (or whoever) is literally saying that most people become a cog in the machine, in other words, a part of the machine (because a cog IS a part of the machine). But Naota is different, he, um, er... becomes... a part of the machine?

If this anime was being symbolic, it wouldn't be so murky and up for interpretation. I dont believe the anime is symbolic because there is no solid evidence, and more importantly, the anime does not require symbolism to accomplish its task, tell an incredibly insane story. The anime is off the charts crazy and for most anime fans, funny. Thats all it is. All the fun of an insane show with all the artistic weirdness of any peice of art, with a tendency for the inexplicable.

[Cloud Clone]

I agree with you on most of what you said, but I just feel like I'm not getting some of it. IMO it should at least have some reason for the robot fights and the dad becoming a zombie and all that.

[kearlywi]

If you are willing to concede that for some reason the first robot fought for Earth (or more specifically Naota) even though he came through a portal that was sending robots to conquer earth, the rest of the robot fights make sense. However, why did the first robot defend Naota/human beings? Did it want to be a human being? Was it an angel and not a robot at all? I think I've put too much thought into this anime. I am willing to assume that for whatever reason, the first robot is a rogue for humans while the rest are appropriately trying to conquer earth. Therefore, if you allow that one detail to slide, the robot fights make sense.

Naota's Dad being a zombie... well, he was kind of an ass before that, so, well, just try not to think about this show too much. The reason this show is so well liked is because of its inexplicableness (so I'm told). I am a logical person who needs to understand what I am seeing, that and randomness irritates me. Therefore I didn't like FLCL, I don't even understand how other people like it. But A LOT of people do like it, so I am willing to recommend it to others just because I know theres a good chance they will like it.

[Cloud Clone]

I like the randomness. It varies up the way comedy can be implemented by refusing to follow any kind of path or guidelines for the presentation of humor, allowing there to be a greater variety of comedic devices to be available for use which greatly contributed to the originality of the anime as a whole.

Ah, me use much big words...no can think good now!

[generalhs]

If you are willing to concede that for some reason the first robot fought for Earth (or more specifically Naota) even though he came through a portal that was sending robots to conquer earth, the rest of the robot fights make sense. However, why did the first robot defend Naota/human beings? Did it want to be a human being? Was it an angel and not a robot at all? I think I've put too much thought into this anime. I am willing to assume that for whatever reason, the first robot is a rogue for humans while the rest are appropriately trying to conquer earth. Therefore, if you allow that one detail to slide, the robot fights make sense.

I always thought he only helped them because his head was smashed, but the fact he fought his way out kind of negates my theory.

Yes, I'm one of those warped people who like this show. Then again, I also thoroughly enjoyed LAIN and I know a lot of people who loathe it.

[Propyro]

Christ where are the mods when you need them to trim some of this shit out.

LMAO ... stuff like the fourth and fifth page of this thread make me wonder why i don't come back to this place more often ... god that was funny to read ...
by the way sorry if you think i'm necroposting ... to ma anything on the first page is still fair game.

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[Vash8512]

FLCL is one of the best anime i've ever seen. Its so incredible how they fit such a cool story in 6 friggin episodes!!