Souls inside the Evas

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Post by Daio Kaji » Thu May 06, 2004 8:19 am

Giver-of-Will wrote:The only problem I found with this theory is well, why wait for third impact? Anyway, thats just my 2 cents.
i think i have the answer for this portion
if Gendo wanted them to become angels, it'd be easier to live their lives that way if there was no opposition, so wait to destroy all the angels, and THEN become an angel yourself, a lot easier than trying to join the angel's guild imo :wink:
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Post by Giver-of-Will » Thu May 06, 2004 8:03 pm

Actually, I forgot to mention something. Adam and lilith would re-start the human race (or whatever popped out of lillith) and would be the next Adam and Eve (instead of Asuka & Shinji)

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Post by T h i r d C h i l d » Fri May 07, 2004 12:51 pm

Sort of off topic, but is it true that the writer for Evangelion was having mental issues during the series? I've heard people say this a few times on other forums.
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Post by )v(ajin Koji » Fri May 07, 2004 12:55 pm

Yes, I think that is true. Or at least he based Shinji on the time when he was having mental issues.
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Post by T h i r d C h i l d » Fri May 07, 2004 2:25 pm

I myself haven't been able to find in truth in the matter, but I can see why that may be true. =)
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Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Fri May 07, 2004 4:44 pm

Third Child - just note that most of the random things said about Hideaki Anno (mastermind of EVA) are ludicrous and/or false. He never went insane, died, or lives in the mountains. He's married now, and he's living pretty normally I guess. He still does projects, though I think the last anime he did was directing Kare Kano.

As for the whether he had mental issues or not, which isn't a ludicrous question - I'm pretty certain Anno went through deep serious depression either while working on Evangelion or directly before working on Evangelion. I don't know if he had mental problems while working on EVA or if he got through them before doing it, but EVA's theme is based off of the positive conclusion of Anno's depression, as far as I know atleast.
Giver-of-Will wrote: Those are all good points, but. . .theres the power issue. Its not like evas have enough battery power to take over the world. As for the beserk thing, yah that could happen, but everyone in NERV was totally shocked when it went beserk, which means they obviously didn't expect something like that to happen. I imagine it has something to do with the fact they were all born after 2nd impact. Also, its not hard to find 3 people to brainwash.
It could easily have something to do with being born after 2nd Impact, but as far as just this theory goes, I don't think it has anything to do with souled adults vs soulless children. Nerv might be able to find adults to brainwash, but having adults makes everything way more complicated even if you can brainwash them. It's just much simpler and easier to use children because it's easier to manipulate them and it takes less to keep them... well, alive, since adults would probably be more likely to demand things like money and TV and such. Not all adults are like that, but the more efficient choice would be children. (Note that they potentailly needed more than 3 children, they just ended up with 3 stable pilots, but if things had lasted longer or happened differently more would have been needed - like Touji and Kaworu.

As for the Berserk thing, while people like Misato and such didn't know the EVA's true self, Gendou and the guys in charge did. That time when EVA 01 breaks out of its restraints and eats the Angel Gendou remarks something about it being going according to plan, or that it has begun, so it wasn't a new development, it was planned. The people who where in charge of the final plans definetly understood EVA's berserk-ness. [/i]
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Post by the Black Monarch » Mon May 10, 2004 10:58 pm

The idea that Rei was created during or after the Contact Experiment in 2004 would require that Rei be no more than 10 years old when the series starts, contradicting the rule that Eva pilots must be ~14. It is based on the idea that Rei looks ~4 years old in 2010, and therefore must have been artifically aged to merely look 14 in 2015; however, if she WAS being artificially aged, she'd look a bit older than 4 in 2010 anyway, so the whole thing is a load of bullocks caused by an animation discrepancy.

Rei is 14. Period. She was 3 when Yui "died" and 10 when Naoko almost killed her.

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Post by Bryal » Tue May 11, 2004 6:47 pm

please correct me if im wrong, im just adding my opinion on rei's soul switching and unit - 00. unit-00 has a soul in it, the soul i think that is in it is rei's soul, the rei that is in the series the entire time has the soul of yui, pleas ethink this idea threw, there is differnt scenes were this theory can be put into place, or seem to make sense, for instance, when unit-00 goes berzerk, it's main target is gendo, (i think it is anyway) the next time it goes berzerk is when shinjis in it, the target then is "rei". It's possable that gendo had done something to rei to bring back yui's soul and in place storing rei's soul in unit-00. Also if he makes the third impact and restart or change life,(im not sure about these details) he's trying to bring back yui in her body. Anouther interesting thing to back this up is with the second last angel, when it trys to merge with unit-00 and it shows rei talking to herself, it's a possability she's talking to yui or vice versa, she also states that she's lonely and wants to merge with the angel, so "rei" selfdestructs the eva, which later one yui's soul goes back into anouther body. (this brings up complecations when the final angel [forget his name] meets lilith in the basement and you see rei standing above)them, maybe rei's soul actualy did merge with the angel? they do mention something about anouther angel in the room. but anyway this is just one of my theories. if theres points against it, please state them so i can think it over. :)

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Post by Daio Kaji » Tue May 11, 2004 11:02 pm

Bryal wrote:please correct me if im wrong, im just adding my opinion on rei's soul switching and unit - 00. unit-00 has a soul in it, the soul i think that is in it is rei's soul, the rei that is in the series the entire time has the soul of yui, pleas ethink this idea threw, there is differnt scenes were this theory can be put into place, or seem to make sense, for instance, when unit-00 goes berzerk, it's main target is gendo, (i think it is anyway) the next time it goes berzerk is when shinjis in it, the target then is "rei".
...shinji wasn't in the eva when it went berserk the second time... wasn't that when the bacteria like angel invaded Nerv HQ and started to merge with Eva's?
Bryal wrote:It's possable that gendo had done something to rei to bring back yui's soul and in place storing rei's soul in unit-00. Also if he makes the third impact and restart or change life,(im not sure about these details) he's trying to bring back yui in her body.
didn't you just say that Yui was in Rei's body already?.. so Yui would already be in a body.. plus, Yui's body is gone.. so anything else would already be a replacement
Bryal wrote:Anouther interesting thing to back this up is with the second last angel, when it trys to merge with unit-00 and it shows rei talking to herself, it's a possability she's talking to yui or vice versa
nope... that's just intraspection... she's talking with the angel that's invading her, she sees an image of herself because the angel has begun to merge with her, so it's already a part of her [the angel trys to merge in order to understand us.. each angel merges with humans more as they progress.. or at least get more intelligent]
Bryal wrote:she also states that she's lonely and wants to merge with the angel, so "rei" selfdestructs the eva, which later one yui's soul goes back into anouther body.
..there's no proof that anything was ever recovered from Rei's self-destruct, and without seeing the soul go to another body, you can't assume it did, just assume that they had backup souls i guess
Bryal wrote:(this brings up complecations when the final angel [forget his name] meets lilith in the basement and you see rei standing above)them, maybe rei's soul actualy did merge with the angel?
nope, she was always part angel

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Post by Bryal » Wed May 12, 2004 2:30 pm

Daio Kaji wrote:
Bryal wrote:please correct me if im wrong, im just adding my opinion on rei's soul switching and unit - 00. unit-00 has a soul in it, the soul i think that is in it is rei's soul, the rei that is in the series the entire time has the soul of yui, pleas ethink this idea threw, there is differnt scenes were this theory can be put into place, or seem to make sense, for instance, when unit-00 goes berzerk, it's main target is gendo, (i think it is anyway) the next time it goes berzerk is when shinjis in it, the target then is "rei".
...shinji wasn't in the eva when it went berserk the second time... wasn't that when the bacteria like angel invaded Nerv HQ and started to merge with Eva's?

im sure it went berzerk with shinji in it, they were testing his sync ratio in anouther eva or something along those lines. i defenitly remember the eva punching at rei when she's standing in the window.

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