How to Spot a Bootleg

Neko116 · Post by **Neko116** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:50 pm

i got that exact dvd, it seems authentic to me.....

i paid $21 for it at target

Jimmy Balls-O-Steel · Post by **Jimmy Balls-O-Steel** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:00 pm

It's official. That ADV logo in the bottom right-hand corner is not only a dead give-away, but I've seen it before at stores that don't sell bootlegs.

I bet that released pissed-off some fans that bought Trust and Betrayal seperately, though. Heh.

gren13 · Post by **gren13** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:47 pm

Thanx alot guys.

TheRealLefty · Post by **TheRealLefty** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:20 am

Neko116 wrote:here is my question: lots of fansubs have a note on them that says: "this is a free fansub, made for fans by fans, if you bought this then you have been cheated, go get your money back!" So its still illegal right? it was copied off some original thing and then subtitled, right? so you could be sued just like if you were downloading music off kazaa? would anyone even be tracing those files though?

To further expound on this "code of honor", Fansubs are only legal to download when the anime has not been licensed in the US (the idea is that since you can't purchase it in the US, its the only way you can see it)... Once an anime has been picked up for distrobution in the US, fansub groups are supposed to yank links from their sites in order to comply with copywright laws...

I'm a proponent of fansubs...gives you a chance to preview stuff before you buy...

Jimmy Balls-O-Steel · Post by **Jimmy Balls-O-Steel** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:58 pm

TheRealLefty: Well, technically one can just search the interweb thingy and buy themselves a copy of the R2 Japanese import DVD's. Correct me if I'm wrong (and by "correct me" I mean "remove the link") but you can buy legal Japanese imports of anime DVD's from J-List. Now, doing so would require a Region 2/Free DVD player, as well as paying all kinds of money for an imported Japanese DVD -- which is very likely to have English/Engrish subtitles. Seeing as the Japanese anime companies must obviously see no logical way of making money off of anything they don't liscense out to American companies, they don't bother trying to sue us gaijin over this copyright infringement. Of course, they're probably also smart enough to see the potential try-before-you-buy factor in the equation, and American companies aren't going to pay the necessary fees to liscense a series/movie/OVA that won't sell.

I hope that was at least somewhat coherent.

Before Yami no Matsuei (Descendents of Darkness) was liscensed, I bought what I believed to be a legitimate imported copy of the series (it was on 3 discs). Of course, I was plagued with shitty subtitles, iffy picture quality, and the opening and closing sequence didn't occur between episodes. I ended up buying the official version, and sold the bootleg for a fraction of what I paid for it, telling her the truth about what she was getting so as not to swindle her like I was swindled.

bubblehead · Post by **bubblehead** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:43 pm

TheRealLefty wrote:
Neko116 wrote:here is my question: lots of fansubs have a note on them that says: "this is a free fansub, made for fans by fans, if you bought this then you have been cheated, go get your money back!" So its still illegal right? it was copied off some original thing and then subtitled, right? so you could be sued just like if you were downloading music off kazaa? would anyone even be tracing those files though?
To further expound on this "code of honor", Fansubs are only legal to download when the anime has not been licensed in the US (the idea is that since you can't purchase it in the US, its the only way you can see it)... Once an anime has been picked up for distrobution in the US, fansub groups are supposed to yank links from their sites in order to comply with copywright laws...

I'm a proponent of fansubs...gives you a chance to preview stuff before you buy...

Fansubs are never legal, but before the show is licensed you can argue that they are ethical. There is a difference between what is condoned and what is actually legal.

...I like "ethical" fansubs too; I refuse to download something I know has been licensed.

bum · Post by **bum** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:48 pm

just found a bootleg guide/faq which and read through it. its prety well writen

http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~mwhitley/bootleg.htm

LovEnPeaCE · Post by **LovEnPeaCE** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:38 pm

I'm not sure, but I think that these are pirated, can anybody tell me if they are? onegai teacher: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6307138732
and love hina: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6306346057

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:42 pm

LovEnPeaCE wrote:I'm not sure, but I think that these are pirated, can anybody tell me if they are? onegai teacher: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6307138732
and love hina: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6306346057

yeah, they are. You can tell because of the way the episodes are arranged they're on less DVDs than usual, and the fact that they play regardless of region.

LovEnPeaCE · Post by **LovEnPeaCE** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:00 pm

could you tell me if other items that those two sellers are selling are also bootlegged?