Naruto Licensed

Neo-Matrix · Post by **Neo-Matrix** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:51 am

Alright Garylisk I get it. Yes I'm a punk and I want something for nothing. I haven't met anime company reps so I didn't know they actually care. I still think they should try to do their best and not just try to make money. That's the reason the music industry got corrupt. If the anime industry cares, they will make Naruto as high quality as possible instead of messing it up. Maybe they're already aware of that and have done their research. I guess I'm just trying to make sure. The problem is, dubbing something from Japanese is always going to degrade the original production. Even if everything's perfect, I like hearing Japanese better still. Thanks for explaining it and not just yelling and cursing. It works much better as you can see...

shishlik · Post by **shishlik** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:28 pm

Garylisk wrote:
Neo-Matrix wrote:Garylisk: I suppose you were one of the people saying "Down with Napster" too?

Why should I support the hurting of someone who is helping?

i totaly disagree with you dude
i, for one, live in a country where no one watches anime.
we don't have it on T.V like where you live and so the only way to access it is through downloading.
now you would say that i wasn't supposed to get the footage then but the thing is that because i know i can enjoy anime now when i come to the u.s for visits i BUY DVDs.
if not for fan-subbers i wouldn't have been exposed to anime.
this doesn't stand ony for me.
many people from my country and from countries with the same situation buy anime because they were exposed to it through the internet.
besides that,
many people want to see if they like the show before they spend money on buying it.
what's so wrong with that?

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:38 pm

Neo-Matrix wrote:What's wrong with bootlegs? Cost less, almost the same...

Look at it this way. With fan-subbing, the people who do it do it for free, and the subtitles seeem to turn out pretty well. Bootlegs generally tend to come from Hong Kong. So instead of giving money to no one for the show, you're instead giving money to companies completely unrelated with the show. You were also copmlaining about how you were worried about the subtitles/translation for Naruto when it gets released here. Bootlegs have some of the worst subtitles EVER. The translations are horrible, and sometimes you'll be lucky just to be able to even read what they're saying.

Garylisk · Post by **Garylisk** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:10 pm

shishlik wrote:
Garylisk wrote:
Neo-Matrix wrote:Garylisk: I suppose you were one of the people saying "Down with Napster" too?

Why should I support the hurting of someone who is helping?
i totaly disagree with you dude
i, for one, live in a country where no one watches anime.
we don't have it on T.V like where you live and so the only way to access it is through downloading.
now you would say that i wasn't supposed to get the footage then but the thing is that because i know i can enjoy anime now when i come to the u.s for visits i BUY DVDs.
if not for fan-subbers i wouldn't have been exposed to anime.
this doesn't stand ony for me.
many people from my country and from countries with the same situation buy anime because they were exposed to it through the internet.
besides that,
many people want to see if they like the show before they spend money on buying it.
what's so wrong with that?

Poeple not in North America are a little bit of a different case, but none-the-less, if these fansub groups are in North America at all, I'd think they should not be subbing a licensed show. It's a tough call, but the harsh reality is that it'd be better for people in places where Anime is nigh impossible to get were to come together and seek out raws and start fansubbing on their own.

The great thing about fansubs is that they put pressure on companies that might bring Anime to your country, area, etc... - Let it be seen that people in your region want it, and I am pretty sure people who could profit off it will get the picture. I mean, unless you're in a 3rd world country...

And yes, BTW, on the subject of bootlegs - those HK bootlegs are mostly made by people who are in large organized gangs who use the money from their many areas of business to push drugs. Bootlegs = drug money a lot of the time.

Neo-Matrix · Post by **Neo-Matrix** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:15 pm

That sux. I guess I won't be making any good AMVs any time soon. Can't afford official DVDs and I don't like using bad video quality. Except... bootleg DVDs would be good for making AMVs since you don't want subtitles in it anyway. But if the money is going to gangs and drugs, I definitely won't buy it.

DarkAnime456 · Post by **DarkAnime456** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:53 pm

I have seen alot of Naurot,almost all fo it and i ma afraid to see the english voices,I mena they do good sometimes,but rarely.

I dont' really care if an anime gets licensed as long as I get to see all fo it in japanese before they decide they can't license it anymore.

They had better do a good job thats all I can say.

DTJB · Post by **DTJB** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:24 pm

The only reason I'm pleased about this is because the only way I actually get anything Naruto is through the Viz manga. This way, I can get caught up with the rest of the world...if I decide to get any of the DVDs AT ALL that is.

shishlik · Post by **shishlik** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:32 pm

Garylisk wrote:
Poeple not in North America are a little bit of a different case, but none-the-less, if these fansub groups are in North America at all, I'd think they should not be subbing a licensed show. It's a tough call, but the harsh reality is that it'd be better for people in places where Anime is nigh impossible to get were to come together and seek out raws and start fansubbing on their own.

The great thing about fansubs is that they put pressure on companies that might bring Anime to your country, area, etc... - Let it be seen that people in your region want it, and I am pretty sure people who could profit off it will get the picture. I mean, unless you're in a 3rd world country...

And yes, BTW, on the subject of bootlegs - those HK bootlegs are mostly made by people who are in large organized gangs who use the money from their many areas of business to push drugs. Bootlegs = drug money a lot of the time.

it is true but i personaly can't do the job since i don't understand japanese and also i don't know many people in my country that do watch anime.
i don't live in a 3rd world country i live in Israel.
it's not totaly true that anime never gets here, there are a couple that got here: DBZ, DBGT and sakura.
but that stuff is on kids channel just like you have adult swim but at least they bring stuff like full metal alchemist.
i seriosly doubt we have DVDs of anime on sale.
people woun't suddenly sub animes cause they aren't exposed to it enough cause it just looks childish at first look(cause it's animation).

i brought many others with me on this
which means more future fans of anime.
the only way for people like me to ever be exposed to anime is english subs.
if it wasn't for english subs of anime i would have never become an anime fan.
also i believe people don't buy less when there's stuff for free
i really believe that

bobbarker31 · Post by **bobbarker31** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:46 pm

shishlik wrote:
Garylisk wrote:
Poeple not in North America are a little bit of a different case, but none-the-less, if these fansub groups are in North America at all, I'd think they should not be subbing a licensed show. It's a tough call, but the harsh reality is that it'd be better for people in places where Anime is nigh impossible to get were to come together and seek out raws and start fansubbing on their own.

The great thing about fansubs is that they put pressure on companies that might bring Anime to your country, area, etc... - Let it be seen that people in your region want it, and I am pretty sure people who could profit off it will get the picture. I mean, unless you're in a 3rd world country...

And yes, BTW, on the subject of bootlegs - those HK bootlegs are mostly made by people who are in large organized gangs who use the money from their many areas of business to push drugs. Bootlegs = drug money a lot of the time.
it is true but i personaly can't do the job since i don't understand japanese and also i don't know many people in my country that do watch anime.
i don't live in a 3rd world country i live in Israel.
it's not totaly true that anime never gets here, there are a couple that got here: DBZ, DBGT and sakura.
but that stuff is on kids channel just like you have adult swim but at least they bring stuff like full metal alchemist.
i seriosly doubt we have DVDs of anime on sale.
people woun't suddenly sub animes cause they aren't exposed to it enough cause it just looks childish at first look(cause it's animation).

i brought many others with me on this
which means more future fans of anime.
the only way for people like me to ever be exposed to anime is english subs.
if it wasn't for english subs of anime i would have never become an anime fan.
also i believe people don't buy less when there's stuff for free
i really believe that

I watched "Space Battleship Yamato" at a resort hotel on the Sea of Galilee back in '81.

I think the music to Macross Plus was recorded in Israel too. Hey, however you can create a demand there, I can't be too much against it.

Zephyrias · Post by **Zephyrias** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:06 pm

For those fans out there who are worried/pissed about the whole English dubbing thing, let me tell you that it is just PLAIN STUPID!

There are some good English voice actors nowadays, and the amount is continuously growing. Also, people now have higher expectations for anime, so I'm sure that ShoPro will be trying harder to find some of those better voice actors. Also, considering Naruto's popularity, there will probably be voice actors just flocking in front of the company's door.

Also, I'm more than certain that there will be editing on the Toonami aired version. But you can still buy the uncut series on DVD (that's usually the only source for Naruto anyway besides fansubs...). And even if you are particularly whiny about the dubbing that might not even be bad, you can still listen to the Japanese track with subtitles!

There, problem solved. If you don't want to hear the dub, then DON'T LISTEN TO IT!!