Evangelion Ending

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Post by Sephiroth » Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:24 pm

Asuka sems to be made up of rei, asuka and Misato at the end

How can i say this.

Reis bandages,
Misatos eye color.

Nuff said, basicly some insecure kid decides to make a decition for the entire human race and turn us into tang. Danm you shinji.

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Post by blaku92 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:58 pm

Shenji is the biggest pussy of a main character ever created. His dad Gendo, on the other hand, is one of the coolest characters ever . . . because he does whatever the hell he wants.

Good luck on trying to understand EVA!!
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Post by Mark_Arandjus » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:25 pm

@ Dude with cool samurai avatar.

Yep Shinji's just a fucked up kid, can ya blame him?
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Gendo doesn't do whatever he wants. He does what he has to do. He sacrafices whatever he has to in the proces, he doesn't take risks. He always plays it safe.
To totally seperate your personal feelings from your goal like that is pretty hard-core.
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:19 pm

Not having emotions to get in the way is actually a goal saught out by most militaries. You need to make sure stuff like slaughtering children that may be used as bombs is something you don't think twice about. Gendo is cold and calculating; it's a great mindset for a leader. It also happens to be the mindset of some serial killers and general psychopaths (most actually do still feel pleasure - and that's why they do what they do).

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Post by devilmaykickass » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:27 pm

When are the mods going to sticky one of these?

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Post by Joe88 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:05 pm

devilmaykickass wrote:When are the mods going to sticky one of these?
well not a sticky but rather a entire new section just dedicated to eva
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Post by CodeZTM » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:14 pm

Actually, I don't believe that Asuka is Rei and Misato combined. As for Asuka's case, while she was alive at the end, it was because of what Rei said during her "death". That those who wanted to come back could come back, but only if they could imagine themselves as what they were (in other words, a strong willed person). Asuka came back because she wanted to live. As for Shinji and Asuka repopulating the planet, it wouldn't entirely be necessary. I'm sure that some people would come back with strong wills. Oh, and for those interested. Eva is technically meaning Eve. It is just a way to say Eve in another language. Therefore, the combining of Adam and Eve (Lilith/Adam (remember that Rei absorbed Adam from Gendo's hand) + Eve (Unit 01). As for the ending in the series: It is "supposedly" what is going through Shinji's mind during the events of EOE. I don't buy that though. The creator made an artistic ending for a symbolic show that I thought was beauty in all it's might. Unfortunetly, many of the fans (as many of you had said) was underappriciative and was unable to read into the true meaning. I thought the series ending was a lot better, but EOE gives so much better clips to use for AMV (lol...). If you guys really want to read more into the show, check Wikipedia under "Neon Genesis Evangelion". It explains a lot of the symbols and themes of the show. I hate that NERV ripped off Robert Browning's poem though...

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Post by Joe88 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:41 pm

*WARNING*
SPLOLIERS





The End of Evangelion, is the final movie created to conclude the all time famous series, Neon Genesis Evangelion. This movie was made after the theater version Death and Rebirth. So you can say, it is the second movie of Eva! Somehow the movie is divided into two respective parts, Air; and My heart for you. Asian movie industry likes to have intermissions between movies, don't ask me why.
Air was first shown on the 19th of March, 1997. While My Heart for You
was show on the 19th of July, the same year. Many critics would say this is a method of doubling profit over the same movie, but it really is a very cleaver strategy to hook you onto the film and making you desperately wanting for the conclusion. Due to heavy demand from the fans of Evangelion at that time, and of critics on how the series ended in very confusing lines, that End of Evangelion is suppose to answer to these demands.
The movie is actually a remake of the series ending. Air, is suppose to replace episode 25 while My Heart for you is the complete ending of Evangelion. A entire length movie, runs for 90 minutes, is packed with Eva action and unexplained myth. It is surely a great collection for all. Of course the separate parts now comes in a single movie package, DVD version infant!
The movie traces to a time after Kaoru's death, as the 17th and last Angel been defeated by the Evangelions. NERV's means of existence ended, its proposed purpose to exist in protection of mankind and in defeating the Angels is completed. Every one in NERV is wondering what is going to happen next, what will become of NERV. Will this organization been taken apart? Or is it going to be utilize for Military purpose and threat against other nations because of their grasp on the Evangelions.
They came out of no where, NERV headquarters in Tokyo 3 was suddenly under attack by the Japanese self-defense Forces. Under the command of the government and planning of SEELE. The comity informed the JSDF that NERV is intending to trigger the 3rd Impact. The Magi's are being hacked, Neo-Tokyo is under assault, Eva Pilots are away or in coma, what's the fate of NERV?
So the soldiers of JSDF, invaded NERV in the name of 'In protection of the entire human race', slaughtering any NERV personnel in sight. The attack force posses army of trained professional soldiers, squadrons of attack harriers, convoy of tanks and armada of vessels. The NERV personnel was never trained to fight on their own against humans, some had never used a gun to kill animals. But with courage and strategy, they managed to seal most of the attack crew out side the command base.
Shinji is still transfixed in his own thoughts and confusions. The idea of Kaoru betraying him and how he had to kill his friend is still clouding his thoughts. The pain and suffering led Shinji into the boy once before, running away from reality and life. Sunk into total depression and the will of living is demolished. He of no one else, tries to die, he is doing nothing to run away from the near advancing enemies.
It is only the strong minded who stand above all others. Asuka, who suffered mental breakdown was placed into her Eva Unit 02 for safe protection. Misato decided that the Eva is the safest place for the children right now. The spirit of Asuka's mother awakened her child's lost soul, for Asuka knows she wasn't alone, she wasn't abandoned, and her mother was protecting her inside this Eva all this time. Packed with battle rage, Asuka charged Eva Unit 02 into combat against the JSDF. Fearless of the conventional army, Eva Unit 02, armed to the teeth, posses the AT-Field, and 50 tones Armor, seems nothing stood in her path...
But joy lasted only to be stopped short by the appearance of the Eva Mass production series launched by SEELE. Multiple Eva Unit 05, piloted by the dummy plug, feels no danger or pain, mind set to destroy Asuka no matter the cost. And with her power supply been cut.........


In attempt to let Shinji escape, Misato was shot, "this is an adult kiss Shinji kun" was her final words. To Shinji, it is both unexpressed sadness and rage, let the fury of Eva unit 01 be unleashed.....


Ayanami Rei, the 3rd Rei. Created to serve the purpose of the beneficial side for commander Gendo Ikari to see Yui again. As planned, the naked Rei arrived at Central Dogma. Her arrangement with Gendo at the bottom level of NERV is preset by the commander. To achieve his own goal, using the Eva project as a guide, is what threatens SEELE the most.
As Rei was only the empty shell to host souls, or as the keystone for Gendo's Instrumentality program, non of that mattered no more. Her life is ending this moment, but Rei, who now posses a soul of her own, choses.....

The defeat of Asuka, raged Shinji Ikari. But as his Eva flies high into the sky, there is little he can do to over come this event that is about to happen. Rei merged with Lilith, as this giant aurora of light flies high above the sky.. Sending chills to all souls that she passes.
She who said 'I'm not your doll anymore', broke free. As Gendo watched in despair, the white 'saints' formed around Unit 01. The tree of Sephiroth is formed, the souls of all people in the world is lifted, the physical body of all melted. In the song of Joy O sweat death, memories of Shinji flashes. Rei who chose not to obey Gendo, will make her loved understand the ways of life. A wish to be granted to Shinji, as to become one body and soul with the rest, or to exist in a world of his own intowishing For what Shinji had wish for, is something that non expected to be...

The 3rd impact occurred, the world is ended. Wish of Shinji came true, where his existence in the reality is accompanied by Asuka lone. In this lonely place, all body combined into one, the sea of LCL. All mind combined into one, in the sea of LCL. The human race, no longer exist as individuals, but all together as one.

So, is this the author's revenge to all the complaints and requests to make a better ending than his original view expressed by the episodes? Is this a sign of protest he uses against the corrupted Japanese Animation industry? Or is this his deepest inner expression made to the Japanese Anime world?

Maybe he has his own true belief... This could just be like the song 'Joy O souls death' Eva is intended to end in terrible tragedy - humanity is intended to head onto extinction and self-destruction.
Who knows? This could be once again the greatest art in Anime history of mankind.

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Post by CodeZTM » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:15 am

"humanity is intended to head onto extinction and self-destruction. "

Sadly enough, I wouldn't doubt if that was the author's true message to humanity in general. All it takes is one crazy guy with a big bomb (or other weapon of mass chaos) and a evil intention ( :twisted: ) to kill us all. But with all symbols comes more interpretation....

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:34 am

What you haev to ask youself, however, is "does all the symbolism and deep meaning really amount to anything if (as has been rumored) the origional ending was changed significantly from it's intended form because of money and control issues?" In other words, does the intent of the creator have any bearing on what the "enlightened masses" see in his work?

Is analysis by groups of amature psycologists, theologins, and literature buffs really worth anything?

For reference, how many of you have been asked to analyze Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea for symbolism while you were in school? And how many of you know that according to the author himself "symbolism is shit!" and he did not put any symbols into the novel? Yet people still analyse it over and over again like he didn't say a word. There are even official answers that teachers are supposed to grade you on at highschools and colleges across the nation! yet none of them are Hemmingway's.
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