Anime Movie Disscusion: Is it right to make them???

[shadow-the-hedgehog]

What about the hong kong DB movie? TEH SUCK!

[Eio]

well i supose it would depend on how bad they plan on butchering it. a friend of mine convinced me to watch guyver. About half way in my eyes tried to eat their way back into my brain. After word i asked my friend politely never to do anything like that to me again. (Ok, my bat asked him) really, I just hope that Eva dosn't inhale profusely. Im one of the few people i know that liked the orignal ending. (my friend suspect they ran out of money at the last second) If they fark it up i well find a way to make them pay.

[Ari-chan]

Im one of the few people i know that liked the orignal ending.

I like the origonal ending too. Besides that, I'm not to big on live action anime movies, they should just not even try if you ask me.

[Ari-chan]

But then again, I wonder who would be playing these characters. I remember hearing that in a live action DBZ movie, Jet Li would be playing Goku and Jackie chan would be playing Vegeta. I wouldn't mind seeing these to see if they do a good job or not. But I Doubt I would like it.

[Anlushac11]

Hollywood could most definitely adapt an anime and turn it into an excellent movie. But for that to happen, the moons of several planets across several galxies will need to align themselves astrologically to harness the unkown spiritual powers of Miss Cleo, the ghosts of the architects of Stone Henge will need to rise up and finish building what was actually just a big-ass gazeebo where the monks had planned to produce and consume doobies, and every fanboy on the planet will need to promise to offer up his probably-never-to-be-born first born child (along with the unlikely woman that bore said unlikely child) as slaves for the movie industry.

Or some producer might actually have an uncanny interest in putting out a quality movie that appeals to the established fan base of any given anime/manga series. But I think the above scenario much more likely.

8)

Sooo...

Your're saying there is as much chance of a Monkey pulling a manuscript of Shakespeare out of its ass as there is of Hollywood doing a excellent live action anime movie?

[Wave_Master_Tsukasa213]

american actors translated it and i thought the voices were ok.

[UncleMilo]

Personally, I don't think there should be live-action anime remakes.

If they want to make them, I can't stop them...

but come on... animation is a completely different medium than live film and all the things that make anime what not translate to live action.

I honestly would like to see Hollywood just try to make movies... I'm sure there's enough ideas out there without having to re-make an anime into a movie.

Crossing a medium wall is always tricky.

Sometimes it works:

Good comic book adaptations:
X-Men, The Rocketeer, Tank Girl, Road to Perdition

Good book adaptations:
Harry Potter, Silence of the Lambs

Sometimes it doesn't:

Bad comic book adaptations:
Captain America, From Hell, Judge Dredd

Bad book adaptations:
The Chocolate War, Man Without a Face, Hanibal

Bad Anime adaptations:
Guyver, Fist of the North Star


That's just a tiny number of examples.

Plus... art is a difficult thing to deal with...

A film may be a brilliant piece of art, but may not find many people who like it...

and another film can be a steaming pile of crud, but many people might enjoy it...


It's a very hard topic to discuss...

Example: I saw a movie that was based on a book... and the movie was a great movie, but a TERRIBLE adaptation of the book. Therefore, while I enjoyed the movie and will continue to state that I think it was a great movie, I also have to concur that it was an awful adaptation...

Example: There was this movie that came out that was a wonderful tribute to the writings of H.P. Lovecraft... and since I am a huge fan of Lovecraft's books, I was able to enjoy all the little references to his novels as well as enjoy the movie itself, which followed the structure of a Lovecraft novel.

Now... if someone comes along and doesn't know Lovecraft and just disliked the movie... they can dislike it, but it doesn't change the fact the the creators of the movie knew EXACTLY what they were doing and made a movie that met all of its objectives. Of course, I was really quite annoyed with one movie reviewer who claimed the movie was kissing the ass of Stephen King and I was sitting there outraged because someone was getting paid to write a review and they had NO IDEA what they were talking about.

So... while a person may like or dislike a movie based on opinion, that's one thing...

but there are some things that are just plain right and wrong.
(Like in my example above - the movie was about the horror author H. P. Lovecraft, not the horror author Stephen King... and there are no two ways about this)


I would like to conclude with a quote from Alan Moore.

His comic book "The Watchmen" was bought by a studio to be turned into a movie. "The Watchmen" was noted as the milestone comic indicating the more adult nature of current day comic books... it was the book that caught the attention of the non-comic-book community and was featured in TIME and NEWSWEEK and so on...

In an interview, Alan Moore was asked how he would like to see "The Watchmen" done...

his response was, "As a comic book. That's why I made it that way."

I think anime titles are fine as they are. Animated.
I doubt Hollywood will make many good adaptations of anime titles and I think some titles can only be downgraded if they were made live.

There are enough writers out there (believe me, I know...I live in CA) that Hollywood has plenty of original new storied they could work on...

So... that's my entry into the discussion.

-Uncle Milo

[dwchang]

Props to Uncle Milo for using "The Watchmen" (a great comic) in his example.

I too agree that an anime should remain just that. Some things cannot be done in the live-action medium and thus were chosen to be done in animation.

I believe Roger Ebert said something similar in his panel at the "Roger Ebert Filmfest" (which I was in attendence since it was at my Alma mater). He basically was getting at the need to differentiate the two and what each was capable of. He used Mononoke Hime as the example.

[UncleMilo]

Thanks...

speaking of Alan Moore... I hear they're going to kill another of his characters on the big screen.

They already did a bad job with From Hell... and as far as I can tell, League of Extrodinary Gentlemen is going to be as far off from the mood and style of the comic as possible... I mean... selling it as LXG shows they're trying to bank on X-Men dollars... which is already a bad sign for the movie.

Now it looks like they're going to ruin John Constantine.

While Alan Moore did not write Hellblazer, he did create the main character.

It looks like Hollywood is going to make a Hellblazer movie, but John Constantine is no longer going to be Blonde, filled with character, middle-aged or even Brittish!!!

They are casting KEANU REEVES as JOHN CONSTANTINE!!!

Now...I don't hate Keanu as much as many others I know...
but for cryin' out loud!!

The movie is entitled CONSTANTINE and John Constantine is now going to be from the US.

SHEESH!

-Uncle Milo

[dwchang]

Thanks...

speaking of Alan Moore... I hear they're going to kill another of his characters on the big screen.

They already did a bad job with From Hell... and as far as I can tell, League of Extrodinary Gentlemen is going to be as far off from the mood and style of the comic as possible... I mean... selling it as LXG shows they're trying to bank on X-Men dollars... which is already a bad sign for the movie.

Now it looks like they're going to ruin John Constantine.

While Alan Moore did not write Hellblazer, he did create the main character.

It looks like Hollywood is going to make a Hellblazer movie, but John Constantine is no longer going to be Blonde, filled with character, middle-aged or even Brittish!!!

They are casting KEANU REEVES as JOHN CONSTANTINE!!!

Now...I don't hate Keanu as much as many others I know...
but for cryin' out loud!!

The movie is entitled CONSTANTINE and John Constantine is now going to be from the US.

SHEESH!

-Uncle Milo

Sadly I'm not surprised they're doing this at all. I mean...ultimately the goal is to make money and the vast majority will go and like it. Sadly we're in a minoiry whose voice isn't heard and doesn't matter.

Oh well, at least we got the graphics novels we can look at and read.

I also heard they cancelled Batman: Year One (Arguably the best Batman book to date). I even remember Darren Aronofsky (sp) of Pi and Requiem for a Dream fame to direct and well...too bad, the movie is a no go . For the record, this is something that I thought COULD'VE worked if the director stayed true (which is very possible and still have the audience like).