Worst ending EVER! - super spoilers involved.

Merm · Post by **Merm** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:01 am

Cowboy Bebop

They gave up, plain and simple.

Anime can easily be ruined by the people writing it because they give up and wrap up the story when they realized they are at the end of the season and have no explosive ending planned.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:32 am

Merm wrote:Cowboy Bebop

They gave up, plain and simple.

Anime can easily be ruined by the people writing it because they give up and wrap up the story when they realized they are at the end of the season and have no explosive ending planned.

I shall be the first of many to call shens on this. Bebop's ending is <i>classic</i>.

My pick? Hellsing. Rushed ending, they really should have made that series 26 episodes.

-DOKool

Sentient Satire · Post by **Sentient Satire** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:15 am

I'm fairly certain the Bebop proponents will start fuming and/or eagerly start hammering responses... So I'll make the point that, it was a dignified way to send off Spike (although, I concede he may not be dead due to the ambiguity). Rather than segue into a commitment for a second season, or come up with a way to end the series with the Bebop cast together (a bold hit/miss idea), the ending was "classic" as stated earlier.

*Berserk (see previous threads) is a non-issue for this topic...

*Noir!? Well I may avoid this series altogether after hearing the sumation of the end.

CerebralAssamite · Post by **CerebralAssamite** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:36 am

Boogiepop Phantom Not so much the ending but the entire friggen series its just one really long tripped out dope smoking bong blowing lump of shit.

Sentient Satire · Post by **Sentient Satire** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:43 am

I can understand your frustration w/ Boogiepop Phantom, however most people don't know that it is a supplement to the first novel in a popular young adult book series in Japan. The timeline is askew, although after 12 watch-throughs I can say I get it, and enjoy obscure continuity details.

What does that mean? BP Phantom is not for everyone, admittedly. But the nature of this criterea (lousy endings) would mean any shortcomings for someone would apply to the whole series. Not just the end.

Merm · Post by **Merm** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:48 am

dokool wrote:I shall be the first of many to call shens on this. Bebop's ending is <i>classic</i>.

My pick? Hellsing. Rushed ending, they really should have made that series 26 episodes.

-DOKool

Please don't get me wrong, I loved Bebop, except for that ending. The ending was just seemed far too rushed with a sense of:

"What do we do now? We got one episode and no second season."
"I don't know, let's kill Spike."

Huh? That was abrupt

thistledown · Post by **thistledown** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:26 pm

I didn't have any problems with the ending for noir. Let's see, my roomate and I have a list of our top bad and good endings.

Bad:
Berserk
kokoro Library (Ok, they didn't finish the two-parter...)
Bebop (Not bad, but leaves things unfinished)
Escaflowne
Evangelion
Fruits Basket (great series, dropped the ending)
Saikano

Good:
1. Nadia - they spend half the last episode in an epiloge that completes every loose end and explains things.
2. R.O.D tv
4. Trigun
5. Gunparade March
6. Mahoromatic
8. Love Hina
9. Infinite Ryvious
10. I My Me Strawberry Eggs

TheKorovaMilkbar · Post by **TheKorovaMilkbar** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:17 pm

"X: 1999 the movie" or whatever the hell it's god awful name is.

Spoiler wrote:The whole damn movie is about the good guys getting their asses kicked one by one, thus parts of Tokyo get destroyed one by one. And to top it all off in the end the main character gets to slice his best friends head off. That's it, end scene, while he's holding his friends bloody head, surrounded by the ruins of Tokyo.

What a rip. I want those two hours of my life back.

TheKorovaMilkbar · Post by **TheKorovaMilkbar** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:27 pm

Oh, and Merm, I'm just trying to understand. You're still fine with the fact that Spike would end up dying, right? Even if they made the series longer?

Was it that you thought they just didn't cover enough of his life, or that they left loose ends? If so, what loose ends can you think of?

Just questions of curiousity. Because I've never heard of anybody who didn't like the ending, so I would like to know what the series lacked that could have made it better, and could have wrapped it up, so to speak, in a way that would have been fulfilling, and possibly, make it one the best series for years to come.

Sentient Satire · Post by **Sentient Satire** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:35 pm

Ahhh, 'tis true.

If only there was an anime feature recall, because an anime consumer watchdog firm found X: 1999 to be hazardous to your sanity, quality of life. And all victims get a 2 hour rebate. Perhaps we should found this consumer group?

On a serious note though, condensing a classic manga serial into 1 movie is by it's very nature hit and miss.

Look at GITS. Critical success.
Akira, likewise. So much so, people fail to realize a manga was the source material.

To contrast it out...
X, the TV series is from what I hear, very watchable.
GITS: SAC is more true to the manga than the feature and some people flame it incessantly.