Is this true about most anime fans?

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Post by Otohiko » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:19 am

I have one note in my .org profile, and that is to not get me started on questions of religion.

I'm actually not atheist. I'm definitely not Christian. I have a whole set of spiritual/mystical beliefs, but these don't fall in line with anything that's recognized as a religion out there - and that's a good thing to me.

I'm anti-religious in all senses of the word, but I'm not hostile - only personally and even mostly just privately. Religion as a concept is incompatible with my value system.

On the other hand, that has nothing to do with anime by a long shot. If anything, many anime titles got me very interested in Biblical mysticism and so forth, through very clever use of allusions to it. :roll:
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Post by dokool » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:06 am

Anime Boston actually had a lot of people up in arms over being on Easter weekend twice in a row - of course, we're talking one of the biggest Catholic cities (and, well, regions) in the US, but still.

There are plenty of religious folk of all types at cons - this is why conventions routinely provide information on nearby synagogues and churches. I mean, granted, by now Otakon should probably just hire a rabbi, a priest, and a minister to perform services in Panel 1 in the morning...

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Post by Scintilla » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:23 am

Kathreen wrote:blueshogun96 wrote:
This is just a thought, I don't want this thread to turn into a war but if it does, someone lock it please.

Now adays, it seems that alot of anime fans are atheist. Is that for real?
I'm also Christian!
Okay...I was baptized in a Catholic church but now I'm Christian, in fact I went to a Christian school for three years and on my opinion I think there's no difference between Catholics and Christians, I mean they do worship the same God right?
Ohhhh, dear. Now you've got me started.

Catholics are a subset of Christians.
Therefore all Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. If you were baptized Catholic, you always <i>were</i> Christian.

That's why you don't have to re-baptize someone when s/he changes Christian denominations; besides, all the sects of Christianity profess faith in <i>one</i> baptism, right?

It seems like when people say "Christian" these days to refer to people and not the religion as a whole, it carries a strong connotation of "Protestant", when there's really no reason it should.

/me was raised Episcopalian, attended both Protestant and Catholic schools (the Protestant one was pretty fundie), and is now agnostic
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Post by x_rex30 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:26 am

Otohiko wrote:I have one note in my .org profile, and that is to not get me started on questions of religion.

I'm actually not atheist. I'm definitely not Christian. I have a whole set of spiritual/mystical beliefs, but these don't fall in line with anything that's recognized as a religion out there - and that's a good thing to me.

I'm anti-religious in all senses of the word, but I'm not hostile - only personally and even mostly just privately. Religion as a concept is incompatible with my value system.

On the other hand, that has nothing to do with anime by a long shot. If anything, many anime titles got me very interested in Biblical mysticism and so forth, through very clever use of allusions to it. :roll:
It sounds like your agnostic.

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Post by Otohiko » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:45 am

I don't like the word "Agnostic" though.
Agnostic implies some measure of doubt, detachment, and lack of concern for spirituality. I'm not known for any of the above :roll:
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Post by R-A-N-M-A » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:45 am

Nope, defenetly not aetheist here, I am a christian but a rather tollerant one. But if I catch any of you trying to get preachy (especially preachy aetheists, so annoying) I'll slap yeh back to the heat of creation, so that the lard may pass his judgement on you and and none of us have to get covered in the aftermath.

I always get the feeling though that a lot of anime directors may infact be aetheists, so a lot of endings of series, and movies tend to depress the hell out of me.
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Post by Otohiko » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:49 am

R-A-N-M-A wrote: I always get the feeling though that a lot of anime directors may infact be aetheists, so a lot of endings of series, and movies tend to depress the hell out of me.
Chances are, 90-odd percent of them are your average Shinto/Buddhist Japanese. So they definitely have a different take on this religion thing. :roll:
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Post by Scintilla » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:51 am

Otohiko wrote:Agnostic implies some measure of doubt, detachment, and lack of concern for spirituality.
Oh good, that describes me perfectly. :)
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Post by x_rex30 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:55 am

Otohiko wrote:I don't like the word "Agnostic" though.
Agnostic implies some measure of doubt, detachment, and lack of concern for spirituality. I'm not known for any of the above :roll:
I'm spiritual and consider myself agnostic. Agnostic is kind of an anti religious thing sorta(one of it's meanings is a person who doubts truth of religion), and also it doesn't mean lacking concern, it means more lacking of jumping to a conclusion. or not.. -_-

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Post by Solaria735 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:14 am

Technically, "agnostic" comes from the Greek "a" meaning basically "not" or "without", and "gnosis", meaning knowledge. So technically an agnostic is someone without knowledge of religion, i.e. pretty much anyone who doesn't expressly follow any religion, but also doesn't go to the opposite end and conclude that religious truths aren't valid. An agnostic just doesn't have any strong beliefs one way or the other.

So, technically, Otohiko is not agnostic, because he says he has his own system of beliefs. They just don't happen to coincide with any "official" religion.
Scintilla wrote:Catholics are a subset of Christians.
Therefore all Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. If you were baptized Catholic, you always were Christian.

That's why you don't have to re-baptize someone when s/he changes Christian denominations; besides, all the sects of Christianity profess faith in one baptism, right?
Correct- for the most part. For a long time, the Catholic Church wouldn't recognize Protestant or Orthodox baptisms. During Vatican II, they officially recognized the other Christian churches as valid and began recognizing their baptisms. Every once in a while though, some denominations or individual churches will make someone become re-baptized, especially in cases of people converting from Catholicism, because not every church recognizes infant baptism as valid since an infant can't make the choice to be baptized independently and doesn't understand the implications of the act.

Back to on-topic-ness...
Otohiko wrote:Chances are, 90-odd percent of them are your average Shinto/Buddhist Japanese. So they definitely have a different take on this religion thing.


That's what I would think too. And the Shinto/Buddhist system in Japan is incredibly different structurally and practiced very differently than Western religions.

Hurrah for majoring in religious studies and linguistics in college!

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