not all anime is made in japan!!!

[older_gohan]

You know Otaku Man your a goood man. Thanks for the information I'm a 'U.S. Anime Otaku' but I firmly believe that anime does not just come from japan. To many shows take on the characteristic of a anime but are dismiss because they didn't come from japan. This is why I want to see a Avatar the Last Airbender Thread in the Anime section with all the other T.V. Shows. It deserves to be there. Much like all other animes, the story, the characters, the plot is both captivating and entertaining. The only thing that seperates it is the person who made it.

[L.Valentine]

I totaly agree with Otaku Man (thanks for your long detailed post).
Anime was born in Japan so obviously the term should only represent Japanese productions.
We can compare anime like parmisan. There are many imitations of the parmisan, but everybody knows that there's only one real original parmisan, the Parmigiano produced in Italy.

I know that's a weird comparison, but it gives the idea.

[L.Valentine]

Sorry for the double post, but I forgot to mention, I was using the word 'anime' with the common meaning.
I just wanted to avoid confusion, with all that explanation of the Japanese origin of the term @__@.
Some could object that if Japanese people use 'anime' to indicate all kind of animation, we should use the term in the same way, but I reply saying that it would be difficult to invent another term to label Japanese animation.
The word 'Anime' is stuck with that signified even in other countries outside USA (see Spain, Italy, France...), so there's no way to remove it.

[Rurounikeitaro]

What's with the underline?

I know this and most people who deserve to know it know it. By saying this in a topic like this, your letting DBZ/Inuyasha fans find out the easy way, so they can join an anime forum and write a big paragraph about anime made where ever and post it days after joining, usually around August. "sounds familar?"

[Evangelion Unit 01]

For me as long as the anime story line and basic animation is done in Japan, then that is anime. I don't really care if they outsource it so it is cheaper to make. A lot of countries do that.

[EXODO]

DBZ is made in america. I mean, they talk in english on Cartoon Network.

Actually it´s not.
It is made in Japan and animated in Korea. Why they speak English is because they dubb it (If you go to Mexico it will be in Spanish, In France it will be in French)... they dubb the English version in Canada by the way (also Inuyasha, Ranma, etc. etc. etc.). Most on the anime is created in Japan but they animate it in Korea (Most fraquently) or other 3rd world country. But we know they are not animated in Japan but they ARE CREATED in Japan. Most of us already knew; but thanks for the post.

FYI: Most of the American Cartoons are animated in Korea (King of the Hill, Teen Titans, etc. etc. etc) or done mçby computer (South Park).

[Malificus]

I don't care if it is`anime or not, In truth my liking anime so much is because so much is good, If an American cartoon is good, whether it's Avatar, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, Calamity Jane, or Teen Titans: If it's good, I like it. Whether or not it's an anime or not only changes who made it (nationalitywise), and if you can make an AMV or CMV out of it. Nothing else.

Anime does not always mean supperior to american animation ("Imitation anime" or otherwise). It isn't all that big a deal anyway. The american Lady Death movie had a Korean animation staff, does that make it international, Korean, American,anime, cartoon, It's still good. the only difference beyond story with it and Akira is Akira can have AMVs of it catelouged on this site, and the original Lady Death had english voice actors instead of Japanese. Why does it matter? It doesn't, but peoplewill bitch and complain about it all the same. There's my opinion.

[Scintilla]

DBZ is made in america. I mean, they talk in english on Cartoon Network.

Actually it´s not.
It is made in Japan and animated in Korea. Why they speak English is because they dubb it (If you go to Mexico it will be in Spanish, In France it will be in French)... they dubb the English version in Canada by the way (also Inuyasha, Ranma, etc. etc. etc.). Most on the anime is created in Japan but they animate it in Korea (Most fraquently) or other 3rd world country. But we know they are not animated in Japan but they ARE CREATED in Japan. Most of us already knew; but thanks for the post.

... It's called "sarcasm".

[BasharOfTheAges]

I'm not entirely sure, but i think the point that a few people are tip-toing around is that since actual anime production is being outsourced, the site rules eregaring what is allowed and what is not allowed begins to break down.

By stating that series A is not allowed because it's not Japanese animation (say it's an american cartoon that bears little or no resembalence to Anime as we know it for instance) meaning it's not physically produced in Japan, one damages their argument when series B that is also not physically made in Japan (say it's outsourced to another asian country where they can pay the animators less) is considered okay. The logic becomes full of holes on paper even though we feel we can tell the diference. Those who institute the rules then begin to seem childish and petty (as do those who whine about changing things, but that's another story) when they're forced to pick and choose what gets in, especially when the "yes" list includes titles like series B...

[EmilLang1000]

I think what a lot of people are afraid of in calling something "Anime" only if it comes from Japan stems from the idea that once we start accepting that Anime can come from someplace other than Japan, we run the risk of sullying it's nature.
Take art for instance. "Art" used to mean a craft or hand-made object of singular, physical beauty. In recent years, however - thank you, neuvo-riche-intellectual-wannabes - the idea of looking less at what is physically beautiful about a piece of artwork in favor of trying to understand the psychology of the artist behind it has led to canvases without paint, and only urine splashed on it, white paint on a white canvas, even bottles aranged in a corner with a lightbulb attached to it. I HATE THAT. And for anyone who LIKES that, realize what I've been saying - Art is something that is beautiful to LOOK AT... nothing more. LITERATURE is meant to be taken apart psychologically, but art is a talent of creating something physically beautiful.
Anyway - now that I've gotten THAT off my chest - I believe that's what people are afraid of when they hear the idea of "Anime not coming from Japan."
But, then again... what is Anime? Many would argue that Anime, being the Japanese shortening of Animation (like "Movies" are the slang for Motion Pictures in the US), is an entirely Japanese artform, and cannot come from anywhere else. However, there is a growing belief - one which I subscribe to, thank you - that Anime is not necessarily Japanese animation only, but has become a style all it's own - a genre in and of itself if you will (no Bebop pun intedned). According to this belief, in order for something to be considered "Anime" an animation does not necessarily have to have a specific look, rather than a feel - a feel derived from a graphicly-based drawing style (use of white-space) without that typical "cartoony" look, a mature plot and themes based more for a teenage and adult audience, and a menagerie of characters who aren't the typical "Lawful Good" stereotypes they are in classic American animation.
I'll give two examples of such - Titan A.E. and Justice League (or, more broadly, the entire Animated DC universe since The Adventures of Batman in the early 1990s). In both, the style - although still obviously American in design - has that blend of cartoonish simplicity and detailed character designs so very oftenly associated with Anime (you can actually imagine these characters walking around like that in real life, unlike, say, Hana-Barbera cartoons). Also in both, there exists a level of maturity and complexity in the plot not seen in your average child's cartoon - Spongebob, for instance. It's not uncommon for the characters to have to cope with death, there own internal demons, which are on par with those of PG-13 and R rated movies, and if you listen, there are even obvious sexual inuendos your typical 7 year old won't pick up on (ESPECIALLY in Justice League).
If you want to argue this, I'll mention this: Westerns.
Confused?
Well, I'll explain. The classic Western is American, of course; it takes place in The American West, stars American characters, and almost always has an American hero. Westerns were invented in America. So by the logic of "Anime may only be Japanese," interpolated to this, Westerns may only be AMERICAN.
That's not NEARLY the case, however. Four of the greatest westerns of all time were not only made outside of the US, but were were written by, directed by, and starring non-American actors. For those of you not well versed in any entertainment that doesn't come from the orient, those films are:
A Fist Full of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West
All were written and directed by Sergio Lione, an Italian, they were filmed in Italy, and all but only a handful of the actors - less than a dozen in each case - actually spoke English, even when on camera. Even The Magnificant Seven was based on Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai.
If something as American as a Western doesn't need to be made in America, who's to say that Anime - which is becoming a genre more and more each year than a specific nationality of Animation - HAS to be Japanese?
And in case you still have doubts, remember this: Anime, which was created Osamu Tezuka, was orginally based on DISNEY CARTOONS! The one difference is that Tezuka wasn't afraid to make cartoons for adults - something that Warner Brothers had already been doing for years before Tezuka hit the bigtime.
I can understand that people are afraid that if it becomes acceptable to call something Anime if it wasn't made outside of Japan, then the idea of Anime will become perverted and end up just a mess, like art has become. But think of this: MOST Anime that's come out is BAD. I know people don't like to believe it, but when you really examine the bulk of them, they are just plain TERRIBLE, just like American TV shows. Although, yes, there are those rare few, like The X-Files, Friends, and Star Trek, which are amazing, and last for years and years, but most TV shows in America are just crap. The same holds true for Japanese TV. The only reason Anime for so long seemed infallible is that, in the nineties, when Anime was first coming out in throngs in America, all we saw was the A material (Ranma 1/2, Trigun, Robotech: The Macross Saga, Cowboy Bebop, Slayers, Eva, etc.). This was because most of the companies dubbing and selling anime NEEDED to bring over high-class Anime so people would actually buy it. Now, though, that Anime has all but secured itself permanently in American pop culture, companies are expected to put out the same, or more, volume of Anime they did before. However, now that the best of the best of past Animes have already been brought over, they need to take a bunch of the newer animes and hope they sell well, even if it's more like B or C material.
Don't be afraid to accept things like Justice League or Avatar as Anime, becuase they look like, feel like, and are just as mature as most Animes.