Big Dumb Face wrote:Tono_Fyr wrote:Big Dumb Face wrote:Tono_Fyr wrote:Meh, the only importance it holds for me at all is that I can't host any Avatar AMV I were to make here.
Far as I'm concerned, Avatar outclasses most anime by a spectacularly large margin in nearly every imaginable respect.
Hey, i've not been around long enough to know this kid. Is he/she being sarcastic?
If not:
You probably haven't seen a fraction of one percent of "most anime" so...yeah If the small small small selection you've seen has been dubbed and put on cartoon network, or god-forbid, Fox, then well I'd still greatly disagree with you, but I'd see were you were coming from.
*Sigh* No, I'm not being sarcastic. I've seen over 150 anime from various sources, and I'm not about to make a shot at naming them all. Granted, 150 IS indeed a fraction, it's nothing to shake a stick at. I used to have a list, but that was many years ago.
I'm here to contend that you haven't actually watched the show at length. You wouldn't say things like that if you had.
Avatar is an excellently done show. The characters are interesting and fleshed out, and the story, while simplified a bit for its "primary target audience", is actually quite complex. Also, it isn't filled to the brim with excessively boring filler. There's a little bit, but it's generally enjoyable, and things that happen come up again at a later date with actual importance. The story doesn't drag on, and it's always fun to watch. The romantic subplots are well developed, which further develops the characters while still moving the show along.
Yeah, I normally lurk the Music and donators forums. I haven't had a whole lot of interest in anime since I got to college last year, so I don't visit this forum very often.
Whoa. Based solely on that intelligent response I'm gonna give this one a second chance (ok well not second more like fourth) But this time I'll watch a whole episode.
Seriously man, i was expecting something like "AVATAR ROXORZ ANIME SUX, YOU SUX, BLAH BLAH BLAH" It's rare to find a response that actually gives REASONS, you've restored my faith in the internet
I still doubt I'll like it, but I'll at least sit through an entire ep.
Even if Avatar is a "good" show, that doesn't necessarily mean it's anime.
Conversely, if something is made in America, that doesn't necessarily mean its a "bad" show.
You're arguing about whether Avatar deserves to be called anime just because its a good show, but your forgetting what the true definition of anime is. There are a lot of crappy animes out there, some that wouldn't even come close to being as entertaining as Avatar. The way you are talking, it's as if the category "anime" is a class divinely higher than "American animation" and that everything Japan kicks American ass, when really they are just two equal categories of animation that are meant to be separated from each other by nature, and generally target different audiences (and different nations).
We don't have to be totally intolerent of non-anime. You can still like American stuff and not have to claim its anime. Therefore, we can admit that Avatar is a good show, but still claim that it is not anime.
I admit that I did watch Avatar for a few weeks back when it first premiered. I saw it had potential, but I wasn't patient or interested enough to keep watching.
Regardless, I will never be able to recognise Avatar as an anime simply because it has the word "Nickelodeon" over the title. Anime and Nickelodeon to not mix.
Period.
