I Still Love Dragonball Z!

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Post by Kracus » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:00 pm

He didn't feel like responding cause you were being a dick and not really being serious. but I'll respond.
nailz1000 wrote: I bet in 6 billion years, after the sun explodes, it won't be remembered.
Probably but you never know, one of the dvds can possibly float out of our solar system and survive and be the human races only legacy. :shock:
nailz1000 wrote: Why not just cut out the filler and sit down and watch the 30 episodes they could have compressed it into, instead of 500?.
Cause the filler is fun! I liked seeing piccolo learn how to drive as well as goku. Or Krillan hit goku in the head with a rock. However I didn't like the Garlic Jr saga.
nailz1000 wrote: Yes, I thougherally enjoy watching "5 minuites until the planet explodes." fights that last for .. um.. what was it? 3 hours realtime? Including cut scenes to completely unnecessary characters?
yes we all know the 3 extra tapes it took for the planet to actually explode. I didn't care by that time, I was into the story and didn't care.
nailz1000 wrote: No, no they didn't. There you go, telling people not to judge things until they've seen everything, and there you go doing it. Good work. I thougherally enjoyed Dragon Ball Z, and would still enjoy it, if Funi would have released it all in chronological order, instead of releasing Outworld Tourney right in the middle of the fucking Cell saga. at that point, I pretty much gave up caring, as I wasn't watching the eps on CN, but rather actually buying the 'uncut' tapes. I still have the movies, although 4-7 were a complete waste of $80. Should probably finish watching the buu series.
very true, I didn't agree with him on that point. I liked the American dubbed just as much as I liked the sub.

I'm the same boat as you, haven't finished the buu saga. My little brother has it and I just have to get around grabbin his copies to watch.

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Re: I Still Love Dragonball Z!

Post by SSJ_Mitsuka » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:32 pm

Why not just cut out the filler and sit down and watch the 30 episodes they could have compressed it into, instead of 500?
Dragonball Z is NOT a filler anime.. nothing really lasts that long until the fights anyway.. plus by adding episodes that were never in the manga it only adds to the development of the characters.. (ok, except the Garlic Jr. saga, that can just disappear..lol!)
Yes, I thougherally enjoy watching "5 minuites until the planet explodes." fights that last for .. um.. what was it? 3 hours realtime? Including cut scenes to completely unnecessary characters?
What characters are completely unecessary?
Bulma? I think not, she is essential to the show! Now maybe Oolong is, but he's still one of Goku's friends.
No, no they didn't. There you go, telling people not to judge things until they've seen everything, and there you go doing it.
Yes, yes they did, they ruined everything.. EVERYTHING.. the emotion, drama, characters, fights.. EVERYTHING!
I bet in 6 billion years, after the sun explodes, it won't be remembered.
No anime will be remembered after the sun explodes, what a stupid thing to say.
Yes, I thougherally enjoy watching "5 minuites until the planet explodes." fights that last for .. um.. what was it? 3 hours realtime?
Oh, that classic complaint.. so imagine five minutes went by..who cares.. Those who don't know the show complain about the battles, and never look past..the battles.. everything is about...the battles.. I myself enjoy the battles, they are emotional and very suspensful..(you wouldn't know that in the dub) but they do NOT make Dragonball Z.. ask everyone in japan why it lasted so long! Dragonball GT ruined it because it was all about THE BATTLES.. If everyone would have a little patience and make it through the main fight no one would ever bash it.
as I wasn't watching the eps on CN, but rather actually buying the 'uncut' tapes. I still have the movies, although 4-7 were a complete waste of $80. Should probably finish watching the buu series.
I agree movies 4-7 weren't the best. 6 was good though.. but movies 8, 12, and 13 are worth every penny.. I have ALL the movies, i've seen the WHOLE show, every saga in japanese. You were fooled by the uncut tapes? Those aren't any better, it's the dub with a few extra bloody scenes that were cut out.. I have four dub tapes because I was desperate to see the android saga back then, and it was hard to find a good fansub dealer.. now I just use them for my music videos! lol..
I thougherally enjoyed Dragon Ball Z, and would still enjoy it, if Funi would have released it all in chronological order
You thougherally enjoyed Dragonball Z? I find that hard to believe. After all that bashing? Were you being sarcastic or something?

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Post by SSJ_Mitsuka » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:38 pm

Kracus, I didn't see your post, sorry! LOL! I agree with you.. well not about the dub though.

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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:42 pm

d00kiemastah wrote:Correct me if I'm mistaken, and I'm no DBZ expert or anything so I might be. But...DBZ is generally aimed at Children, or at the very least "Young People" right?
I mean, sure. It's violent. It has a few fairly sexual jokes. Some poorly drawn and vaguely lined woody. Well, that one Tree of Might movie did anyway. But still. The target audience would probably be in the demographic of 8-16, wouldn't it?
Suppose it's kinda like Spongebob Squarepants here in the states. Aimed at a very young audience, but is known to have quite a few adults watch it.
I have no idea what the target audience is in Japan, but yes - the dubbed version is aimed at people 14 and up (14 for the violence, though they tried to cut the explicit parts out). But comparing it to spongebob is a little much. DBZ has a plot that continues from episdode to episode. In order to watch it you have to remember what happened in previous episodes and be capable of thought. You have to be mature enough to handle characters like Frieza who enjoy watching their victims suffer, and you have to know enough about animation to understand the facial expressions.

Spongebob has no steady plot, it doesn't require any thought to watch, you don't have to watch one episode after another since each one is a simple (very very simple) little snippet with some poorly hidden 'theme' covered in fun humor for the kiddies. Sure, adults watch it, but this is the US - adults watch Cow and Chiken and Ed, Ed, and Eddie - there's no comparison of American cartoons (of this sort) and Japanimation. Even Pokemon (for all we like to mock it) has a plot that requires at least some sort of memory in order to follow, it does build up to something, and it does require more than an episode-by-episode humor fest in order to get viewers.

If you want to compare DBZ to an American animated series, you'd do better to pick something like X-men - something that has characters and a storyline with a beginning and end - and even filler episodes adding to that eventual end. Spongebob doesn't fit any of the requirements to be an appropriate comparison. The only similarity is that it's watched by adults and babies (it's appropriate for toddlers) in the US, and DBZ is watched by adults and children (no toddler should be allowed to watch this anime - and few toddlers would get anything out of it unless they watched the few slapstick comedy bits).

I honestly fail to see the correlation between this cartoon and this anime. :?

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Post by SSJ_Mitsuka » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:23 pm

I think Dragonball Z is an anime that appeals to all ages.. Well I mean, if you think about it, an "adult" anime usually contains porn, rape or sex.. if none of these are there, most can watch it. Dragonball Z is a very mature, serious emotional show.. and so adults love it, it has everything you could ever want.. and I love it.

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Post by SSJ_Mitsuka » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:24 pm

I wouldn't even compare Dragonball Z to shows like X-men.. American cartoons NEVER go anywhere really...

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Post by SSJ_Mitsuka » Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:23 pm

sorry for posting three time, can you edit posts? o.O I'm still new here.

Oh, and i'm a girl everyone! =P lol!

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Post by El Banana » Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:02 pm

SSJ_Mitsuka wrote:I think Dragonball Z is an anime that appeals to all ages.. Well I mean, if you think about it, an "adult" anime usually contains porn, rape or sex.. if none of these are there, most can watch it. Dragonball Z is a very mature, serious emotional show.. and so adults love it, it has everything you could ever want.. and I love it.
That is so wrong in so many ways. :?
SSJ_Mitsuka wrote:Oh, and i'm a girl everyone! =P lol!
Is that so? Legal already?
Pictures please?
I like bugging people. Deal with it.

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Post by Otohiko » Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:05 pm

El Banana wrote:
SSJ_Mitsuka wrote:I think Dragonball Z is an anime that appeals to all ages.. Well I mean, if you think about it, an "adult" anime usually contains porn, rape or sex.. if none of these are there, most can watch it. Dragonball Z is a very mature, serious emotional show.. and so adults love it, it has everything you could ever want.. and I love it.
That is so wrong in so many ways. :?
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Post by Shun » Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:16 pm

Otohiko wrote:
El Banana wrote:
SSJ_Mitsuka wrote:I think Dragonball Z is an anime that appeals to all ages.. Well I mean, if you think about it, an "adult" anime usually contains porn, rape or sex.. if none of these are there, most can watch it. Dragonball Z is a very mature, serious emotional show.. and so adults love it, it has everything you could ever want.. and I love it.
That is so wrong in so many ways. :?
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