Kids & Anime

User avatar
HeartbreakerByZep
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:35 pm
Location: Bright Midnight
Org Profile

Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:02 pm

Good stuff to teach a kid? There's no teaching involved in the scene you mentioned. The only applicable dangers that a kid would take away from that would be from kids that have serious mental problems. Good stuff to show a kid though, I'd say yes. I'd like them to see something powerful. There's no reason that it would have any ill effect, so why not?

I don't know what EVA made you think, since you haven't told me, but almost any thinking is better than none.
Look at all my trials and tribulations
Sinking in a gentle pool of wine.
Don't disturb me now, I can see the answers
'Till this evening is this morning, life is fine.

User avatar
Kalium
Sir Bugsalot
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:17 pm
Location: Plymouth, Michigan
Org Profile

Post by Kalium » Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:06 pm

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:but almost any thinking is better than none.
Unless you're in the military or trying to raise a religious child. Thoughts that go against the religions canon happen a lot, in most any religion. Most commonly in sects that discourage any disagreement with the official interpretation (case in point being many of the fundie christian sects).

User avatar
HeartbreakerByZep
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:35 pm
Location: Bright Midnight
Org Profile

Post by HeartbreakerByZep » Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:41 pm

Kalium wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:but almost any thinking is better than none.
Unless you're in the military or trying to raise a religious child. Thoughts that go against the religions canon happen a lot, in most any religion. Most commonly in sects that discourage any disagreement with the official interpretation (case in point being many of the fundie christian sects).
I don't intend to show Evangelion to kids that are in the military. As for religious canon, I know for a fact that it's possible to raise religious kids without restricting ideas that go against the canon. The best way to go is always to allow kids to become religious having heard other ideas and of their own will, if you want them to be the most dedicated (in my experience with people, atleast). I can completely understand someone not showing Evangelion to their children for religious reasons, but some thought is still better than none. A person is usually going to question the facts eventually, no matter what "the facts" are.
Look at all my trials and tribulations
Sinking in a gentle pool of wine.
Don't disturb me now, I can see the answers
'Till this evening is this morning, life is fine.

User avatar
oldwrench
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:15 pm
Location: Erehwon, MN
Org Profile

Post by oldwrench » Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:58 pm

It's interesting to see so many of you understand the fundamental problem. :o Parents need to teach they're children the ethics and morals they need, starting as infants. We cannot just leave our children with others in daycare and schools and expect them to do the job for us. These people have been handcuffed by regulations till they have no means to enforce discipline. This began with my generation and the theory that you should never punnish a child, just let them do as they want and learn from what they do. This expanded to childrens rights being stereched too far. We are not born knowing how to respect others property or person, watch toddlers playing together, we must be taught these things. A strong family presence is the best for this vital task.

As for anime or video games, there are so many things that influence our lives, I think they are only a minor influence. Weren't there violent influences before? I grew up with Popeye beating up Bluto, Elmer Fud always trying to "kill the wabbit" or the duck which ever was handy. Combat and Lone Ranger were favorite TV shows, no violence there, huh. :roll: Anime has something for each age group. I would not show Kite to children, :shock: not even the edited version, and pokemon probably doesn't appeal to most adults. Its a wonderful form of entertainment but we need to control the age at which our children watch it just as we would any movie.

As for a religious viewpoint, I think it best if our children learn what others viewpoints are. How can they live in this world without learning to discern right from wrong. Our Lord told us to search the Scriptures, there you find truth and life.
Where did you say I'm going?.... And what am I doing in a handbasket?

Come and join us on the tiny but fun forum at http://www.allanime.org

User avatar
Lyrs
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2002 2:41 pm
Location: Internet Donation: 5814 Posts
Org Profile

Post by Lyrs » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:13 pm

I let a few elementary kids watch the first episode of Naruto (subbed) three times (the point at which they said they knew what was going on), after which I subjected them to a quiz of what they felt about Naruto as a character. All 3 of them thought he was cool, and they showed me the kung fu moves they learned.

I expected them to have more emotions about Naruto, something along the lines of that's so sad, he's an orphan and nobody likes him. I'm probably just wishing.
GeneshaSeal - Dead Seals for Free
Orgasm - It's a Science

User avatar
Moonlight Soldier
girl with bells
Joined: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:45 pm
Status: Plotting
Location: Canada
Org Profile

Post by Moonlight Soldier » Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:54 pm

Kids mimic things to learn. That's obvious in itself. That's why they need GUIDANCE.

=/

User avatar
Daio Kaji
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:29 am
Location: ..wat goes here now?¿
Org Profile

Post by Daio Kaji » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:22 pm

Lyrs wrote:I let a few elementary kids watch the first episode of Naruto (subbed) three times (the point at which they said they knew what was going on), after which I subjected them to a quiz of what they felt about Naruto as a character. All 3 of them thought he was cool, and they showed me the kung fu moves they learned.

I expected them to have more emotions about Naruto, something along the lines of that's so sad, he's an orphan and nobody likes him. I'm probably just wishing.
i guess if this wasn't too long ago, maybe giving them a multiple choice quiz might be a good idea
questions like:

Does Naruto have a family?
How do the people in Naruto's village treat him? Is this right?
Is Iruka a good person? why?
Is Mizuki a good person? why?

then see what kind of answers they give you, my little sister luvs Naruto (she reads the manga faster than i do... she's waiting for me to catch up, lol) and i know she understands the characters and the trials they go through... but she's in 6th grade (6th grade is middle school where i'm from)
she also enjoyed Eva and understood it... the 2nd/3rd time i explained it to her though, so it's not impossible for 'kids' to understand right from wrong, but like
Moonlight Soldier wrote: they need GUIDANCE.
and that's what needs to be taught by the parent figures at an early age
If you're reading this, you've gone too far...PREPARE FOR RETRIBUTION!!
Don't judge an AMV by it's anime.. u nooB ;D
Image

User avatar
Nienna Elentari
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:44 am
Location: In the middle of nowhere.
Org Profile

Post by Nienna Elentari » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:27 am

Um, that's pretty pathetic if you have to blame anime or video games for their actions (unless something is mentaly wrong). Parents should teach their kids responsibilty, difference between right and wrong, and that the choices they make have consequences(sp). I think it's partly the result with parents wanting to be their kids friend instead of being an actual parent. They are so scared their kid is going to hate them or rebel (duh, natural part of growing up)! They protect their kids in instances where they could have let them learn. (ie my mom said, when I was younger, if I got picked up for drunk driving or something dumb and got arrested she would let me sit in jail instead of bailing me out right away cause her "sweet pea" *coughs, gag me* was in jail). Parents need to raise their own kids instead of giving the responsibilty to society.

The media today is so bias it's not even funny. I did a whole project on this and could give several examples of how it is (it was even worse than I thought it was).

The media will go as far as to protect certain groups no matter what. An example of this is a 1998 murder case of Matthew Seperd which in a month after the murder 3,700 copies were printed in the press, but when a 13yr old Arkansas boy, Jesse Dirkhising, was murdered in 1999, who was tieddown, gagged, and rapped by two homosexuals and left to die by suffocating; only 46 stories were ran by the national press. New York Times, who ran 195 stories about Shepard, ran nothing on Jesse along with CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS who totally ignored the story saying Jesse was only a "local crime story." When really it comes down to they don't want to make homoesexuals look bad. The list goes on, but I'll stop there.

My point is if you were raised to question things around you and not believe everything you hear at once, therefore the media isn't the problem; most of it comes from America being so lazy now a days. Younger kids don't want to take the time to research things and study ethics have decreased majorly over the past years. Not a lot is expected anymore of kids of our generations. Japan has very strong work ethics and schooling is taken more seriously than it is here.

The problem is not the media, anime, video games, or movies... It's the parents, who don't take the time to actually teach their kids.

Kid: I got in trouble for punching this kid that made fun of me in school today and I got in trouble for it.
Parent: It's ok Johnny, it wasn't your fault. We'll talk to the principle about it and you won't have to go to Saturday school. *pat pat* (our lil Johnny is never wrong, no). *cough cough, gag me twice!*

Teach kids to be able to seperate and know the differnce between reality and video games/movies/anime and there would be no problem. People need to suck it up and take responsibilities for their actions and not blame society.
"I'm just watching a dream I never wake up from."

User avatar
oldwrench
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:15 pm
Location: Erehwon, MN
Org Profile

Post by oldwrench » Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:49 am

Kid: I got in trouble for punching this kid that made fun of me in school today and I got in trouble for it.
Parent: It's ok Johnny, it wasn't your fault. We'll talk to the principle about it and you won't have to go to Saturday school. *pat pat* (our lil Johnny is never wrong, no). *cough cough, gag me twice!*

Teach kids to be able to seperate and know the differnce between reality and video games/movies/anime and there would be no problem. People need to suck it up and take responsibilities for their actions and not blame society.
[/quote]

You have that right, :) parents need to show they're kids that there are consequenses when you break the rules, not defend them when they are wrong. :evil: Parents are spending too much time trying to get "things", to raise their own children. They substitute toys and permissivenes for time, training, and the love the child needs. :evil: Our society is pushing us to be poor parents and broken families. I hope you all remember this when you have children lf your own.

You have shown me you are perceptive and intellegent young people. :o Perhaps there is hope for this world. :) Sorry for the mess my generation has made of it. :oops:
Where did you say I'm going?.... And what am I doing in a handbasket?

Come and join us on the tiny but fun forum at http://www.allanime.org

User avatar
)v(ajin Koji
Joined: Thu May 15, 2003 11:22 am
Location: Essex, U.K.
Contact:
Org Profile

Post by )v(ajin Koji » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:08 am

Moonlight Soldier wrote:Kids mimic things to learn. That's obvious in itself. That's why they need GUIDANCE.

=/
T.V. TEACHES ALL

INFIDEL!!!!
I'm bored and you're dumb. A match made in heaven.
- Kai Stromler to son_goten.
Last edited by )v(ajin Koji on Mon 21, 2011 9:36 pm; edited 1 time in total

Locked

Return to “General Anime”