Anime is taking over! Good or bad?

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Post by MiyaJadecube » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:26 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:A lot of it is noticeable as well, just looking around in book stores, I remember a day when manga had one row on a shelf in Chapters, now it has at least 2 spinning racks and a full shelving unit in most stores.
I agree that just browsing through BN (for example) nowadays means finding a sturdy section marked 'Comics', or even 'Manga' in the store. Spinning shelving and all. :P I also think this has an upside. I can find translations of the manga I want, so I don't have to hunt for decent fansubs, or go even to more obscure sites to try and bargain my way to owning a new title from Japan.
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Post by the Black Monarch » Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:41 pm

I think the animation "import binge" is a very bad thing. This is mainly because most imported anime sucks ass. Anyone remember the "fox box"?
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Post by Bulghod » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:28 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:I think the animation "import binge" is a very bad thing. This is mainly because most imported anime sucks ass. Anyone remember the "fox box"?
isn't all anime imported?

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Post by spike bomb 11 » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:01 pm

What do you mean by "Isn't all anime Important?"?
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Post by Bulghod » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:11 pm

spike bomb 11 wrote:What do you mean by "Isn't all anime Important?"?
bulghod wrote:isn't all anime imported?
imported, as in brought in from another country. Guess which country.[/quote]

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Post by bobbarker31 » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:24 pm

I don't think that most fans realize the sad state of the domestic Japanese industry. One of my favorite jokes in Excel Saga is when Pedro's son tells of how he wants to go to Japan to become an animator. He believes that they have to be the most respected people in their entire country.

This would go over the heads of most people. Unless you are a famous animator, you would not be able to support yourself being an animator in Japan. The conditions are such that some live with their parents so that they can make ends meet. Why do they still do it? Because they love what they are doing. But the next generation is not being brought up and eventually there will be a drop off in tallent.

There is a lot of anime being produced in Korea right now. Why? Because it is much cheaper to employ people there. Watch through the credits of your favorite shows and see how much was really "Made in Japan".

Here are a few articles talking about this.

http://www.geocities.jp/japanliving/anime.html

http://advertising.telegraph.co.uk/arts ... right.html
Shuhei Kishimoto, a consulting fellow at the Research Institute of Economy, Trade and Industry, however, expresses serious misgivings about the future of this industry in "Japanese Animation Will Decline If Nothing Is Changed".

According to Kishimoto, the production companies -- mostly small businesses -- are not told how much the program sponsors are spending for commercials. In the case of a 30-minute animated program for terrestrial TV broadcast, they will be provided only with a budgeted amount in the 8 million yen to 12 million yen range, which is not enough to cover the production cost. They rely on royalties from the sale of related goods and proceeds from overseas distribution to break even.
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Post by Nandez » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:33 pm

Well to me it doesn't really matter,However I do get the pissed sometimes when someone like my best friends little brother does think he knows all about or when some of the people who ar einto anime or so they say tlaka obut certain shows shown by Cartoon Network or Fox for example and say thats lame its a bunch of crap because they thinks its a kids show because its been cut.Anyway whats it matter it will probally never become as big as it is in Japan.
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Post by spike bomb 11 » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:55 pm

Yes, thats really pisses me off. Us skaters like to call those kind of people "posers".lol
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Post by bobbarker31 » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:55 pm

It is now taking on a symbiotic relationship. Anime companies in Japan are far past the point of not giving a hoot about what we watch here in the United States. Now they need us to break even on production value of some shows. Soon, they will need us even more.

Some studios are increasing their allignment with American dubbing and distribution firms. They are wanting a universal release of some titles instead of the usual several years of it being in Japan before coming to the states. Titles like the Twelve Kingdoms and The Last Exile finished in Japan just a few weeks before coming being released in the U.S. They hope to stop the boot leggers and fan subbers.

Some shows are more popular in the U.S. than in Japan and vice versa. The Big O was never going to be produced past the 13th episode until it was demanded here in America. Princess Mononoke was released on DVD in the states before it was in Japan... It takes on a life of its own and series that continued on beyond what they were planned for makes for some of the more interesting stories in anime history.
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