does anyone like DBZ?

[Shun]

REally DBZ was meant to be for adults

Really?





Crap, what show have *I* been watching...?!

lmao

This subject came up in a Naruto thread a while back. It's not so much that it was ment for adults as it is the kids in Japan are different from the kids in America. What is considered "for kids" there is quite different then here. So while most anime IS directed twords kids, you have to understand the cultural differences. I meen shows like this are aired on kid's stations in japan, but here they either have to have a warning about the content before they start or they have to be butchered to fit the American child.

[VegettoEX]

It has absolutely nothing to do with the children.

Children are inherently the same in any country. They're tiny people that need to be raised by parents. Therefore, anything relating to the children falls upon the parents. It's the parents who have the "final say" when it comes to the content their children watch, and it's the parents that bitch and moan and whine about said content.

Yes, it's a cultural thing. The culture of parenthood, and how parenting is vastly different from country to country. Why do the shows "change" (fot TV) when they're brought over here? It's not because American children are different than Japanese children; it's because AMERICAN PARENTS + CHILDREN + TV = OMG?!?!?WTF.

OK, so that's a really gross over-generalization of American parents, but whatever. I played the crap outta Mortal Kombat and I turned out OK... *shrugs*

DBZ, whether in its original Japanese form or FUNimation form, was, is, and forever will be targeted towards children. The magic of the show (and its spiritual predecessors such as One Piece and Naruto) is that it can be enjoyed on a variety of different levels by all different sorts of people. It's not like you could throw DBZ on HBO as-is and expect it to have a male/30+ audience, though. It's for the kiddies, but we all love it because Toriyama wrote such phenomenal stories :). That's what shines through and attracts such a wide array of fans, and still does 20 years later.

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[quote="VegettoEX"]It has absolutely nothing to do with the [b]children[/b].

Children are inherently the same in any country. They're tiny people that need to be raised by parents. Therefore, anything relating to the children falls upon the parents. It's the parents who have the "final say" when it comes to the content their children watch, and it's the parents that bitch and moan and whine about said content.

Yes, it's a cultural thing. The culture of parenthood, and how parenting is vastly different from country to country. Why do the shows "change" (fot TV) when they're brought over here? It's not because American children are different than Japanese children; it's because AMERICAN PARENTS + CHILDREN + TV = OMG?!?!?WTF.

OK, so that's a [b]really[/b] gross over-generalization of American parents, but whatever. I played the crap outta [i]Mortal Kombat[/i] and I turned out OK... [b]*shrugs*[/b]

DBZ, whether in its original Japanese form or FUNimation form, was, is, and forever will be targeted towards children. The magic of the show (and its spiritual predecessors such as [i]One Piece[/i] and [i]Naruto[/i]) is that it can be [b]enjoyed[/b] on a variety of different levels by all different sorts of people. It's not like you could throw DBZ on HBO as-is and expect it to have a male/30+ audience, though. It's for the kiddies, but we all love it because Toriyama wrote such phenomenal stories . That's what shines through and attracts such a wide array of fans, and still does 20 years later.[/quote]

first of all the dbz series was supposed to be for teenage boys
because of akira's sense of humor that was for the best,
akira had a rad' sense of humor has anyone here red the left-handed uncut dragonball first 3 volumes? I had to hide these from my little brothers and sisters. they were funny as hell but Also kind of nasty!

[Dragon_Avatar]

not many people seem to care about DBZ, if your someone who likes to use it in your videos, not many people like the video as a whole, whats that about? why cant people just complement the effort

I love DBZ, second favorite anime! And, now, people are going to flame me. But my friend, whom I was talking about it with yesterday, made an excellent point about it: It's repetitive.
I still like it though, but I think I'm starting to like it less after he said that..Curse him..

[raven13200]

Dragonball, DBZ, and DBGT. Some of my all-time favs. Which also includes ZOIDS, of course! Stupid CartoonNetwork isn't showing either anymore...

[megaman917]

Dragonball, DBZ, and DBGT. Some of my all-time favs. Which also includes ZOIDS, of course! Stupid CartoonNetwork isn't showing either anymore...

Last I checked CartoonNetwork is still showing the uncut version of DBZ.

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not many people seem to care about DBZ, if your someone who likes to use it in your videos, not many people like the video as a whole, whats that about? why cant people just complement the effort

I love DBZ, second favorite anime! And, now, people are going to flame me. But my friend, whom I was talking about it with yesterday, made an excellent point about it: It's repetitive.
I still like it though, but I think I'm starting to like it less after he said that..Curse him..

it may be repetitive but it is very good at what it does
I'll never demote dbz because of what some people say!
they kept me happy then and they'll keep making me happy until I die
what would be nice is if akira would not have stopped at ssj3
and kept the flame burning maybe if he did alot of the long-term fans would have stayed active.

[Dragon_Avatar]

it may be repetitive but it is very good at what it does
I'll never demote dbz because of what some people say!
they kept me happy then and they'll keep making me happy until I die
what would be nice is if akira would not have stopped at ssj3
and kept the flame burning maybe if he did alot of the long-term fans would have stayed active.

I wish he would make a special DBGT manga. I'm guessing it wouldn't be very long, but I'd love to see it.

[W i l l o w]

It would seem that no one can give the author of this Topic a straight answer when it comes to the LIKE or DISLIKE of the Dragon Ball Z series. Truth be told, I still love Dragon Ball Z; Except I have only one prefrance: I'll only watch the earlier seasons before FUNImation changed the voice actors (I mean to purchase the older seaons as well). I was first introduced to this series WAYYY back in the 1990s when it came on either Eearly Saturday morning or after FOX-KIDS programings were over, but I'd pick the first one if I were to guesstament. However, my mother used to come in on me and say "Turn this off, its too violent you to watch," I remember getting angry and then getting up on Saturday when she was still sleep enduced just to watch it (She was the same with Power Rangers, Spider-Man: TAS, Batman:TAS, Superman:TAS, The Tick, Batman Beyond, Avengers, Godzilla, Monster Rancher and ect.). I was currently watching the Namek/Freiza Saga when it was on 24/45/54/02 or one of those free TV channels. When it stopped coming on the free TV channels, the show slipped into the back of my mind and I continued watching other cartoons until I discovered TOONAMI (I still watched FOX-KIDS then).


Toonami back in 1997-2001 was the best thing that could ever happen to Cartoon Netowrk before it did a 180 in 2002; And it did show "The most Anime outside of Japan" truth be told. Its the TV-block that reintroduced me to DBZ - only this time I actually got to see the first episodes before the Namke/Freiza Saga. Goku continued to be my favorite character throughout the entire series (in fact he was my ONLY favoirte character). Everything he did was just too cool. Of course it wasn't until the late 1999 that they started to show the other parts of the Namek/Freiza saga that I REALLY liked Goku beyond how I did before. However, I noticed one thing; they changed the narrator I liked, the changed all the voice actors (whose names were unknwn to me at that time) via the OCEAN GROUP in Canada and also changed the music. This sorta killed the feeling of characters for me but I slowly got used to them. In 2000/01 (in 2001 they premired Dragon Ball) they returned with new episodes of DBZ starting off with the mini-Trunks saga, then the android saga, and finally the best saga next to Freiza - the CELL SAGA. Afterward I figured after Goku decided to stay dead, the show was over but I was surprised when in 2002 they decided to show the last batch of episodes of the DBZ saga.



And its only then did my love for the show wane. However, its' not because I grew bored of Dragon Ball Z --- it was the change of characters and missing characters. For instance, Gohan's character as a teenager changed, he wasn't that headstrong, powerful and likeable character as he was when he was a baby or 11-year-old teenager. And the introduction of Videl Satan was a big bust on Toriyama's part.


It felt like he was tryin' to recreate the Chi-Chi/Goku pairing. The focus on more Gohan and Less Goku was annoying, because Teen Gohan had no character/personality to him at all and Goku, well he was reason to watch the show besides all his other friends. You didn't get to see Tien or the other DBZ fighters as much. Not to mention that the "Greatsayaman(?)" episode was horrible, the tournament and most of all the MAJIN BUU saga was horrible!! So even great moments like Goku going Super Sayain III was the coolest and Goten and Trunks fusion as Gotenks didn't save it. Buu was nothing but a Cell WannaBE, so the last seaon of the show really lacked what I loved about the previous sagas/seaons. So in truth, I still love DRAGON BALL Z - I just don't own any of the episodes in ORDER (I started recording it during the Trunks Saga). Dragon Ball Z does what it does good - give you great characters and top of the line action scenes with the ocassional good Spinoff movies (Cooler's revenge - Bardock: Father of Goku - History of Trunks - The Dead zone - Tree of might - Lord Slug - World's strongest - Android 14(?) - and etc.).

[W i l l o w]

Also, "Dragon Ball Z: GT" is not created by Arkia Toriyama but one of his Sons since he retired, therefore the series sucked because it didn't have what DRAGON BALL Z or DRAGON BALL. I mean C'mon, turning Goku into a child and then having him search the UNIVERSE for black star Dragon Balls (say what???) before the world blows us, was probabaly the dumbest plot in the world. No one was like themselves and Gohan's daughter Pan was annoying.