full metal alchemist on cartoon network

Cleric_32 · Post by **Cleric_32** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:51 am

I'm going to have to agree with Cloud Clone on this one. It seems like the characters are too shallow with no real thought to them. (O my god my parents are dead, like that hasn't been used before). There is a lack of story to the anime. Not to mention that the characters with all of the cool attributes (ie, Mustang) aren't even the main characters.

FMA = teh suxxor the Elrich brothers are little canadian baby girls!

Brigid · Post by **Brigid** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:26 pm

Well, that's rude.

I must say that you must not watch the show much or are really hard to please if you think that. There's much more to all the characters than that. Ed and Al are easily the most well developed characters in the show. They are affected by their mom's death, but that isn't the only thing that motivates them. They help people, they help each other, and if you think the show stinks so much what the heck are you doing posting in this topic?!

76 · Post by 76 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:19 pm

agreed

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:01 am

After a diligent study of the animation as a vernacular whole, I find that I am deeply disappointed in the genometric presentation of plot metamorphosis. I am surmisedly destraught over the disencumbered statements made on the topic of this degenerative, copeseric conflagratation of animated events.

i.e. Don't be such n00bs.

Seriously though, this topic is meant to discuss Full Metal Alchemist. It isn't rude to not like the show. FMA isn't horrible, but there's much better anime out there. Of course the main characters are the ones that are the most developed because, well, they're the freaking main characters. My complaint is that there are much more interesting characters who aren't as deeply explored as they deserve to be, and the main characters simply aren't that interesting because they're immature, despite the higher than average amount of life experience they seem to have endured. In conclusion, it's better to watch other anime that's better. Even Inuyasha, while formulaic, stands out because the peripheral characters are better explored. Whereas Inuyasha and Kagome suck (just like Ed and Al), characters like Miroku and Sango (akin to Colonel Mustang and Hughes), are better explained. The End.

Yoshiyuki Inokuma · Post by **Yoshiyuki Inokuma** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:14 am

Cloud Clone wrote:After a diligent study of the animation as a vernacular whole, I find that I am deeply disappointed in the genometric presentation of plot metamorphosis. I am surmisedly destraught over the disencumbered statements made on the topic of this degenerative, copeseric conflagratation of animated events.

i.e. Don't be such n00bs.

Seriously though, this topic is meant to discuss Full Metal Alchemist. It isn't rude to not like the show. FMA isn't horrible, but there's much better anime out there. Of course the main characters are the ones that are the most developed because, well, they're the freaking main characters. My complaint is that there are much more interesting characters who aren't as deeply explored as they deserve to be, and the main characters simply aren't that interesting because they're immature, despite the higher than average amount of life experience they seem to have endured. In conclusion, it's better to watch other anime that's better. Even Inuyasha, while formulaic, stands out because the peripheral characters are better explored. Whereas Inuyasha and Kagome suck (just like Ed and Al), characters like Miroku and Sango (akin to Colonel Mustang and Hughes), are better explained. The End.

Nice explanation as to why you don't like FMA. I do get your comparison to Inuyasha... as I don't like Inuyasha or Kagome either...

But anyways... FMA is ok. the episode tonight was among my favorites, but I turned it on half way through it so I'll have to watch it again lol. anyways I'm just glad their moving the series along and pouring out some more new episodes on Adult Swim.

(Getting used to American voice actors when you've seen the Japanese ones are tough though...)

Brigid · Post by **Brigid** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:24 pm

Noobs?!

And just how to you think the presentation of plot metamorphosis "encompasses biometric analyses of chromosomes in order to identify features inherent to chromosome functioning and organization at the level of the whole genome" taken from Genometrics: definition?

I'm not certain that 'degenerative' (meaning "of illness; marked by gradual deterioration of organs and cells along with loss of function" from
Answers.com) was the proper word either. And 'copeseric' isn't even in the dictionary.

And I'm not saying that not liking the show is rude. I'm pointing out that since this is obviously a topic in which fans of the show are going to gather and discuss just exactly how much they like it, is it really a topic that someone who doesn't like the show would normally visit? Unless that person wanted to complain to fans of the show about how much he/she thinks that the show is unworthy of adoration.

Might I add that Roy and Hughes both had quite a bit of character development. The focus is on Ed and Al, however, so of course Roy et. al. would have less screen time. Plus Hughes is dead, and fans mourned that. It's a tribute to how well handled his character was that viewers were affected the way they were. Roy is still an active character and I am certain he'll be coming more into the picture as Ed and Al reach the Ishbalans.

And now you say that FMA isn't horrible? Might I remind you of what you originally said:

Clone Cloud wrote:FMA sucks. Except for Hughes, but we know what happens to him. The Elrich(sp?) brothers r liek omg teh SuxXoR.

The peripheral characters are easily more than 50...million times more interesting than the main characters.

9.9 Honestly, does this sound like someone who has thought out the reasons for their dislike and made rational, objective decisions on such? I don't think so.

I do like Inuyasha, by the way. I also like Fullmetal Alchemist. I think both are among the best animes ever. Certainly the best I've seen. The animation quality for both is terrific, the plots are sound, characters grow and change (no, really), and then there's the boy-grows-up base story that they both have in common.

Something my Dad rather likes about both shows, though he finds FMA rather depressing at times.

There's my two cents. Do with them as you will.

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:16 pm

Come on Brigid, if you couldn't tell that the first paragraph was a joke, you have to be a noob. I'm not here strictly to complain about the unworthiness of FMA, I'm here to spark meaningful debate over the pros and cons of the anime. The thread looked boring with no one to challenge the majority rule's opinions, so I decided to be the one to do that.

Now for that, I must say that I've underestimated your abilities of a communicative argumentation. While you're right that the impact of Hughes' death on the FMA audience was effective, the buildup of character influence was climaxed in the very same episode in which he died, meaning that most of the time defining his character was done in a little less than 20 minutes. Comparatively, Ed's character has had hours and hours of character building episodes and isn't nearly as compelling as a stand-alone character. Discluding him from a more focal point in the series is inefficient in regards to the total impact of the anime, at least from a critical perspective. Thus, Hughes' death isn't nearly as impacting as, say,

Cowboy Bebop spoiler wrote:when Spike died at the end of Cowboy Bebop.

My first post was an exaggeration of my opinion. Watch out, things like that don't carry over well on the internet. I'm not surprised you like Inuyasha; as you've stated FMA and Inuyasha have some very similar key elements. From what you've said so far, it seems like you get most of your anime from Adult Swim. As I hope you've gathered by now, AS is not the best source for watching anime, though if it's your only source, I can understand how you would think that FMA and Inuyasha are among the best anime you've seen. However, it would be good to see nearly all anime that has ever been made before making a statement such as "both are among the best animes ever."

supersayian313 · Post by **supersayian313** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:05 pm

everyine is entitled to thier own opinion, or else the world would be a boring place.

supersayian313 · Post by **supersayian313** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:06 pm

everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, or else the world would be a boring place.

cowboy bebop is on a completly different level than fma, but fma is also one of my favorites.

riverstar · Post by **riverstar** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:46 pm

Now, Cloud Clone, you shouldn't go around calling peoples noobs because you attempted to supposedly use sarcasm via the internet and they got offended. You yourself said that it doesn't express itself well. And, yes everyone can have an opinion (debate is fun, after all), just make sure it's more articulate than "it sucks".

Personally, I think that the characters are more developed that the worn-out "omg, my parents are dead, now let's go screw up our lives". There is more to the plot than resurrection and it does develop into a more complicated plot line as the series progresses, at least in my opinion.