Whats with you DBZ haters!? heres reasons why its good...

Moonlight Soldier · Post by **Moonlight Soldier** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:03 pm

Dont think youve won , now what you said about valium... is that a habbit of yours?

Well someone's bitter...

nrjize · Post by **nrjize** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:05 pm

Ok, in DBZ they occasionally say the names of their moves before using them, but no where near enough to be as annoying as other animes that do this

Concerning Evangelion... I liked it up until the last 2 episodes where shinji talks to himself in his own psychotic world, and the movie was good up until the part where that crazy bastard destroys the world, This to me was annoying. what I said about it all being a bunch of garbage with no meaning... I suppose it might have meaning if I was crazy

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:05 pm

Daio Kaji wrote:
MinnieMoose wrote:A: the heroes don't really do anything. We all know Goku will save the day. Nothing exciting.

B: to defeat an enemy, they just scream and electricy flows (From the first saga to the last)

C: There enemys keep getting stronger and stronger. I mean yeah you have to expect that, but once your enemy is strong enough to destroy a planet, what's the point?

D: There stories are just repeats of themselves. Villian shows up, stall until they train, train, train, train. Oopps, all the training was for nothing, we need Goku again.

E: There is no plot besides the fighting. No drama, no romance, no worries about death because they come back no matter what.

F: If Goku has a tail, and chi chi has kids with him, isn't that kinda like beastiality?

G: Why do they fight for 3 weeks worth of eps Ex: The end of namek "The planet will explode in 5 minutes" but they fight for 10 episodes, then goku SOMEHOW has neough time to fly halfway across the plaent, get into a spaceship and float away. Oh yeah, real good.

H: Bulma changes hairstyles to much.
responses are coordinated by letters accordingly

A: three villians in series, first is frieza, goku saves the day, second is cell gohan saves the day, third is buu, the ppl of earth save the day, goku helped once, wow, a whole one major time

Frieza: Defeated by Goku, Cell: Defeated by both Gohan AND Goku, a one handed kamehameha wouldn't do it Buu: Goku borrowed the energy, formed it, made a ball and dropped it, and it was the universe, not just earth.

B: screaming gets the blood flowing, don't u ever scream or shout if ur in a fight, i doubt u just fight silently unless ur a martial arts expert fighting a novice, and they use energy, kinda like fire, fire hurts, ppl die

They scream to deflect shots too, kinda just...bad

C: who ever said that the earth was a basis to compare power to, it doesn't mean anything if a person can destroy a planet, cause that just means they have enough power to do it, it doesn't mean that they're omnipotent or anything, u shouldn't use the earth/other planets to compare power, also planets are different sizes, so it's no use trying

If you can blow up a planet, what's to stop you from using that energy to envelop an enemy?

D: the same answer for A, goku does not always win, ur saying the same thing over again, plus he loses sumtimes too, he does not ALWAYS win, ex: android 19, kid buu, perfect cell, u want me to keep going?

Goku looses, trains, comes back, wins, pattern

E: drama is in the buildups to the final confrontations, romance i agree is not there all the time, but so what, eva didn't have much romance, and what is romance besides an illusion anyways, not even dbz was ever said to be a romance, why should dbz be it, and bringing sumone bak from the dead is not as easy as u make it seem, in case u didn't know, it took almost the whole (original) series to bring bak piccolo, and yamcha/tien/chaotzu were never brought bak (original being when it was going to end with frieza)

WHOA you mean a whole series. They came back, big deal. New dragons every once in a while so you don't ever have to worry.

F: aren't sum of the inu yasha characters beast type ppl, and i'm not saying i condone beastiality, but they're at least both mammals, even big foot got himself a lady, why not saiyans, and besides, no saiyan women exist anymore, besides pan at the end of the series

This was a joke, not to be taken seriously

G: the goku frieza fight was the original climax of the show, it is only right that it is a good fight, but i can't defend the thing about the planet only taking 5 minutes to explode and yet they went episodes with it, but still, u can't use this example because IN THE SHOW frieza himself admits that he was wrong with his calculations and that namek was lasting longer than he thought it would

You mean he was wrong and it took a whole freakin 30 minutes to explode? that's some miscalculation.

H: this remark does not deserve a response

This too was a joke

MinnieMoose wrote:Exactly. What anime? And what about the DBZ plot? Can you defend the fact that all it is made up of is sweaty cut and bruised musclemen grappling and hitting each other? And i said they say names of attacks at the begining of the series and back in DB. In DBZ there is no drama/romance/monkey feces throwing/terror/booty shakin. It's just mindless violence. And the villians are evil for evil's sake. No ideals behind it, they just like mindless chaos. Let's compare:

Trigun: Knives despised humans because he was a plant creature, and he wanted to get rid of a rival species.

Cell: Created to destroy. Robot destroy, obey master, destroy, destroy, system shutdown

B:

Hellsing:

Incognito: To cause chaos and to overthrow humanity and take his seat in a throne thanks to an anctient demon god

Frieza: High pitched preppy with lots of power.

There's just no comparison.
actually:
Cell did NOT simply or at all follow orders, he was destroying for the joy of rebellion and the hatred of humans/saiyans and their inferiorities, not because dr. gero told him too

It was still blatent mindless destruction

Incognito sounds kinda like vegeta/paragus (brolly's dad) to me

Frieza was the character in the series that was a true terriorist villian person, he was a spoiled little brat that had a superiority complex, thus a villian

and about the comments about moves, mrjize was saying that dbz is just like other shows in the sense that they ALSO say the names of the moves they use, i don't think he was saying that dbz was the exception to this

and nrjize, i think u sadly underestimate evangelion and also misunderstand it, take dwchang's advice, and re-watch the series (if u've even watched it once to begin with) and have a more open-mind this time

I also like burritos and top ramen.Not mixed together mind you.

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:09 pm

Dammit, read between there, it got mixed in. And that's "habit" and it's not a habit. I take regular prescription medication that IS meant for me, but valium i only take for severe leg pain (I have a shiny cast, i'd offer it to sign to you but it doesn't seem to fit well in my router).

Hitori · Post by **Hitori** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:10 pm

It's getting hot in here...

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:15 pm

so take off all your close

So hot, it's getting hot in here

Ok i broke down into my ghetto personality for a second. Hey, i'm just defending my standpoint and correcting this other guy who is wrong about facts in the series.

nrjize · Post by **nrjize** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:17 pm

correcting me on my spelling now huh?! well, I truly feel sorry for your leg problems, Ive had fun with this DBZ thing

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:19 pm

Does this mean you offer your soul in retribution for hinting that i have a drug problem? MWHAHAHAHAHA, and stuff.

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:21 pm

MinnieMoose wrote:
Daio Kaji wrote:
MinnieMoose wrote:Exactly. What anime? And what about the DBZ plot? Can you defend the fact that all it is made up of is sweaty cut and bruised musclemen grappling and hitting each other? And i said they say nam...

Trigun: Knives despised humans because he was a plant creature, and he wanted to get rid of a rival species.

Cell: Created to destroy. Robot destroy, obey master, destroy, destroy, system shutdown

B:

Hellsing:

Incognito: To cause chaos and to overthrow humanity and take his seat in a throne thanks to an anctient demon god

Frieza: High pitched preppy with lots of power.

There's just no comparison.
actually:
Cell did NOT simply or at all follow orders, he was destroying for the joy of rebellion and the hatred of humans/saiyans and their inferiorities, not because dr. gero told him too

It was still blatent mindless destruction
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I also like burritos and top ramen.Not mixed together mind you.

don't change my words, i never said it's mindless destruction, reply outside of the quotes, and u can just say it's mindless because it's massive, there is a tremendous difference

point out to me where cell commited mindless destruction

WarpedElements · Post by **WarpedElements** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:25 pm

When creating the cell games, when destroy stuff when "eating" people. Either way, he was violent for violent's sake. He just wanted to destroy, period. Destruction causing does not a good villian make.