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Post by Mroni » Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:48 pm

UncleMilo wrote:
Mroni wrote:Um wtf where have you been? Oh wait Why am I asking you will be long gone after I post this reply. See you in a few months.
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Re: Least Favourite Anime

Post by Arigatomina » Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:11 pm

omniinuyasha85 wrote:
UberTai wrote:*holds up flame shield* If this has been asked before, I am sorry, I'm new here. But anyway, what is your least favourite anime? Mine's Trigun.
you should just hate anime overall if you hated trigun. just WHAT THE HELL was wrong with it? a little justification is a good idea, cuz i dont know what would float yr boat if trigun didn't. its actually one of the not so bleak futuristic animes. i'm really doing all i can to not lash out and speak like a civilized human being, taking into consideration yr new to this..
This is the reason these threads can't go on without flames. UberTai doesn't have to justify why he/she hates this anime. No one has to justify his or her opinion. Most of the people who bother explaining are just trying to keep people from thinking they're poor judges of anime in general. The question asked what anime you hated, not why you think it's a bad anime or why you think other people should hate it. He gave his opinion, that's all he has to do. And if you want to lash out, you'll be the one looking like a newbie - just take a gander at the flaming going on in this thread already. There's no sense sharing opinions if you have to justify your opinion to keep from getting attacked because you dared to think for yourself.

With that said, there are a number of anime I hate, even more that I won't watch because they don't hold my interest. I'll list them, but don't expect me to bother trying to justify my opinion - I have my opinions because I think for myself. If that bothers someone, it's too bad. Don't flame people for having an opinion. If he'd said Trigun was poorly animated, boring to watch, and had a predictable plot, then you'd have something to complain about. All he said was he didn't like it - nothing to argue about in that, it's his opinion.

Anime I hate:

DBGT
Nadesico
Ninku
Tenchi in Tokyo
Gasaraki (sp? it's been a while)
Samurai X (the Kenshin ovas)

and lots more that don't come to mind too quickly. I'd add Inuyasha, Escaflowne, and Dragonball Z in there, but I do like some of the characters so it's more of a strong dislike than actual hate toward the anime.

Why do I hate them? Because they don't suit my tastes. Enough said.

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Post by generalhs » Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:14 pm

Excel Saga. I usually like weirdness, but Excel herself just annoyed me to no end.

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Post by GeoChansey » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:23 pm

Either Neon Genesis Evangelion, or Akira. I truly feel they were both par at best.

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Re: Least Favourite Anime

Post by UncleMilo » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:51 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:
omniinuyasha85 wrote:
UberTai wrote:*holds up flame shield* If this has been asked before, I am sorry, I'm new here. But anyway, what is your least favourite anime? Mine's Trigun.
you should just hate anime overall if you hated trigun. just WHAT THE HELL was wrong with it? a little justification is a good idea, cuz i dont know what would float yr boat if trigun didn't. its actually one of the not so bleak futuristic animes. i'm really doing all i can to not lash out and speak like a civilized human being, taking into consideration yr new to this..
This is the reason these threads can't go on without flames. UberTai doesn't have to justify why he/she hates this anime. No one has to justify his or her opinion. Most of the people who bother explaining are just trying to keep people from thinking they're poor judges of anime in general. The question asked what anime you hated, not why you think it's a bad anime or why you think other people should hate it. He gave his opinion, that's all he has to do. And if you want to lash out, you'll be the one looking like a newbie - just take a gander at the flaming going on in this thread already. There's no sense sharing opinions if you have to justify your opinion to keep from getting attacked because you dared to think for yourself.

With that said, there are a number of anime I hate, even more that I won't watch because they don't hold my interest. I'll list them, but don't expect me to bother trying to justify my opinion - I have my opinions because I think for myself. If that bothers someone, it's too bad. Don't flame people for having an opinion. If he'd said Trigun was poorly animated, boring to watch, and had a predictable plot, then you'd have something to complain about. All he said was he didn't like it - nothing to argue about in that, it's his opinion.

Anime I hate:

DBGT
Nadesico
Ninku
Tenchi in Tokyo
Gasaraki (sp? it's been a while)
Samurai X (the Kenshin ovas)

and lots more that don't come to mind too quickly. I'd add Inuyasha, Escaflowne, and Dragonball Z in there, but I do like some of the characters so it's more of a strong dislike than actual hate toward the anime.

Why do I hate them? Because they don't suit my tastes. Enough said.
I disagree with you.
Stating an opinion doesn't instantly give you pass on argument!

If you say "I hate this show" then you should expect that people who like the show are going to want to know why. They are engaging you in debate.
Often, conversation back and forth might make you think of things you hadn't thought of before... you might find a new discovery about a show and then find you like it... or you might feel stronger in your dislike of the show.

Hiding in a shell and saying "It's my opinion so leave me alone!" is not a very strong argument. I think people who do that are the ones who act like "newbies" (just to use your term).

I mean... if some one came on the board and said it was their opinion that all animation is for kids... I'm sorry, but that opinion is wrong. There is more than enough evidence to show that not all animation is for kids. Therefore the person's opinion is without value.

Some people think that the word opinion is some all mighty shield that ends all discussion... but it just isn't.

I think if you're going to come on to an animation message board and say "I hate this show" then you're either a jerk looking to start problems or you have a valid reason of some sort... and people on the board would EXPECT a reason. I know I would.

If you don't want to explain why... sure... you have no need to explain it... but to think that you can say it and get NO REACTION is just an ignorant notion.

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Post by Arigatomina » Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:03 pm

The problem with that analogy (someone saying all anime is for kids) is that the person is making a statement about anime. What was said here isn't a statement about the anime. I never said anything about any anime title in this thread - I said something about myself in regards to that anime. Yes, you need to back up your opinion if you make claims about an anime - saying there is something wrong with it (plot issues, animation style, etc). But if you merely say I don't like this, that isn't up for debate. You can argue that I *should* like it becuase someone else does, but that's anal. I don't have to like anything just because someone else has reasons why he/she thinks *everyone* should like something jut because he does.

Yeah, if you say an anime is crap, you need to explain why you feel that way. If you say there is something wrong with an anime and that's why you hate it, you have to defend your statement - explain why you think this aspect is 'wrong' or 'bad.' But if you say I like this or I dislike this - without saying why - there's nothing to argue about.

I don't mind explaining my views in a thread about what anime you think is bad - we've had a thread like that not too long ago and I was careful to point out each problem I had with the anime I listed. But I'm not saying there's anything wrong (or right) about the anime I named, so there's nothing to argue about and nothing for a person to take offense over.

If someone says they hate an anime I like because they think it sucks, sure, I'll get upset and defend my favorite anime by showing why it doesn't suck. But neither I nor the person I defended made any claims about the anime aside from personal feelings. I feel the anime I listed doesn't satisfy me - I didn't say there's anything lacking in the anime, only that I am not the sort who will appreciate it because I'm different from the people who love it. If you want to try arguing with me to change me - make me have the attributes that would make me love an anime, then that's an entirely different thread.

Anyway, I stand by my statement - you can't argue with whether or not a person gets off on an anime unless that person makes a claim *about* the anime (good, bad, sub-par). I made no such claim.

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Post by RedFusionX » Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:36 pm

I will say that I don't buy anime I hate, nut I have seen a few from friends I just didn't like.

1. Blue Gender
2. Zone of the Enders Delores ( I did like Idolo though)
3. SD Gundam - WTH!
4. Pilot Candidate
5. Big O
6. Pokemon
7. Metropolis
8. ZZ Gundam
9. Green Legend Ran
10. Genocyber

There is my two cents, now leave me alone :)
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Post by Otohiko » Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:57 am

Personally, as long as people admit that their feelings are due to their personality/preference, I don't mind. Even if they use strong words, the important part is that they accept their own view as subjective.
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Post by DriftRoots » Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:54 am

*attempts to pull thread back on topic*

I don't watch things I hate/really dislike, so here's my list of things I won't watch (but tried, to be fair!)

Love Hina
Noir
Trigun
Tenchi Muyo et al
FLCL
Hunter X
Any series that ends up on Saturday morning and/or weekday afternoon cartoon lineups that is geared towards impressionable young minds who don't know what Smurfs are and ends with "mon."

Note that I am making no statements about my opinion as to the quality, originality, artistic merit of these anime - that's not what this thread is about, really. This is just a statement of personal preference... so back off!

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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:31 pm

While I can think of a lot of shows that, honestly, I just couldn't get into/have lost interest in (EVA, RK, IY, CB, etc...etc...) there's very few shows I can honestly say I dislike.

The only two that come to mind are:

Gundam 0083 - Stardust Memories: While I'll concede it did indeed have nice animation, a quality soundtrack, and even some decent mech designs, I personally found much of the cast bland and/or repellent...plus the fact that the show seemed to change the message of many of the earlier series from "War is Hell" to "War...it's faaaantastic!"

and

Gundam Wing (Yes, yes, we all know the irony of my saying this given my username...but I digress): Wasn't always this way...I used to like this show, then I started to watch the series that led up to it (in particular the original Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta, and the 0080 OVA) and then, upon rewatching, found the difference surprising...the show was all flash, with no real core to it, rather a bunch of prettyboys in fancy machines slaughtering faceless soldiers in droves, then, at the end of the day, angsting over what they did.
Plus, some of the rabid fandom had a hand in my getting embittered too, but that's a story for another time...

p.s. Hitori - In regards to Big Wars, haven't seen it yet...part of me was tempted to by it...then flashes of 'Psychological Damage' (I think that was it) came to my mind, and I promptly put it back (well...once the laughter subsided anyways...)

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