Who's Better Kenshin or Shishio in the Bakumatsu?

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Re: kenshin!!!

Post by dwchang » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:44 pm

Karou_ken wrote:did anyone notice but shisho's voice is the same as Spike's voice in Cowboy Bebop and yumi's voice is the same voice as Faye. I know this sounds wierd but in every anime I have seem the voice of Spike and Faye are always in the same anime. I weird!! :?: :?
Uhm...no.

Spike was voiced by Kôichi Yamadera and Faye was done by Megumi Hayashabara. Both had nothing to do with Kenshin.

Unless you're talking about the dub. If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised since (I think) Wendee Lee did Faye in the dub and she does a bunch of dubs. Then again, there aren't that many US VA's that consistently do voice work like in japan, so you're gonna get overlap.
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Post by skanks » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:24 pm

I think the same group of people do the dubs for every anime..
Else it sounds like..
For the hell of it sakes... If Kenshin hadn't stopped being a manslayer, kenshin would of been Shishio. Shishio was Kenshin's replacement and got pissed of because at the end of the revolution he was betrayed. If Kenshin hadn't gone all soft then he too would have had that fate. The Manslayer he was back then could perhaps of faught Shishio on even grounds (if Shishio hadn't changed either)
But Yeh, Kenshin isn't really the Strongest, his master could own him and probably even Shishio. :wink:
Kenshin only really won because Shishio stuffed up.. Look at the Fight between Aoshi and Kenshin and then Aoshi and Shishio.. I mean sure Saito was able to suprise him and smack him in the head but even Saito couldn't do anything against Shishio.
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Re: kenshin!!!

Post by Shun » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:33 pm

Karou_ken wrote:i believe that kenshin is soooooo much better :!: !!!!! Not to mention he is way hoter!!!!!!!!!! :oops: anyway kenshin could kick shisho's burnt a** any time!!! :twisted: hey! did anyone notice but shisho's voice is the same as Spike's voice in Cowboy Bebop and yumi's voice is the same voice as Faye. I know this sounds wierd but in every anime I have seem the voice of Spike and Faye are always in the same anime. I weird!! :?: :?
I always find it amusing that every argument that says Kenshin would win is based around statements like "Kenshin is cooler hes so much better omfg he just is".

By saying things like this you are only furthering the point that all the facts lead to the conclusion with shishio being the strongest, and if i am wrong in saying this then please someone give a valid argument saying otherwise. :?

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Post by dwchang » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:34 pm

skanks wrote:I think the same group of people do the dubs for every anime..
Else it sounds like..
For the hell of it sakes... If Kenshin hadn't stopped being a manslayer, kenshin would of been Shishio. Shishio was Kenshin's replacement and got pissed of because at the end of the revolution he was betrayed. If Kenshin hadn't gone all soft then he too would have had that fate. The Manslayer he was back then could perhaps of faught Shishio on even grounds (if Shishio hadn't changed either)
But Yeh, Kenshin isn't really the Strongest, his master could own him and probably even Shishio. :wink:
Kenshin only really won because Shishio stuffed up.. Look at the Fight between Aoshi and Kenshin and then Aoshi and Shishio.. I mean sure Saito was able to suprise him and smack him in the head but even Saito couldn't do anything against Shishio.
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Agreed, Hiko could probably kill everyone in the country of Japan...at the same time :P
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Re: kenshin!!!

Post by dwchang » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:37 pm

Shun wrote:
Karou_ken wrote:i believe that kenshin is soooooo much better :!: !!!!! Not to mention he is way hoter!!!!!!!!!! :oops: anyway kenshin could kick shisho's burnt a** any time!!! :twisted: hey! did anyone notice but shisho's voice is the same as Spike's voice in Cowboy Bebop and yumi's voice is the same voice as Faye. I know this sounds wierd but in every anime I have seem the voice of Spike and Faye are always in the same anime. I weird!! :?: :?
I always find it amusing that every argument that says Kenshin would win is based around statements like "Kenshin is cooler hes so much better omfg he just is".
Agreed. The best part is I even wrote a reply where I stated that I knew people would say stuff like "OMG Kenshin is teh best b/c he is teh main character and I like him." If people seriously are that insecure about their favorite character that he has to be the strongest...they should go watch Dragonball Z or something (a show that focuses on Strength).

It's quite apparent that the show's (or at least the Kyoto Arc) theme is that "might does not make right." That is of course illustrated by having a character whose entire "powers" make him stronger and stronger as he fights and who believes that "the strongest will survive" and then this piddly little red-haired guy protect his loved ones and his own beliefs. Don't you guys wonder why Kenshin is so weak looking and feminine sounding? It's to further the point.

Reading half the replies to this thread makes me shake my head that such a explicitely stated theme can be overlooked just for the sake of "He *has to* be the strongest...he has to."
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Post by Kracus » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:22 pm

YanValentine1786 wrote:obviously kenshin went for the sappy "whats right will win" angle, which i loved by the way. shishio was much strong, but in the end he also didnt have the best technique. Who would have thought of using the vacuum effect? :)
It wasn't best technique that won the fight. Shishio set on fire, his body killed him. Kenshin just lasted throughout the fight. Shishio only had to stab him in the neck and snap his spine right after he took a bite out of him.

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Post by samurairyu » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:27 pm

HIKO RULES!!!!!!! :twisted:

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Post by Vincent17601 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:27 pm

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Post by Vincent17601 » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:29 pm

y does nothing of mine ever work...
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Post by Savia » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:30 pm

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Sasuke would dominate over anyone else.
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