Souls inside the Evas

HeartbreakerByZep · Post by **HeartbreakerByZep** » Wed May 12, 2004 7:28 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:The idea that Rei was created during or after the Contact Experiment in 2004 would require that Rei be no more than 10 years old when the series starts, contradicting the rule that Eva pilots must be ~14. It is based on the idea that Rei looks ~4 years old in 2010, and therefore must have been artifically aged to merely look 14 in 2015; however, if she WAS being artificially aged, she'd look a bit older than 4 in 2010 anyway, so the whole thing is a load of bullocks caused by an animation discrepancy.

Rei is 14. Period. She was 3 when Yui "died" and 10 when Naoko almost killed her.

I have a hard time beleiving that Naoko 'almost' killed her, since it's made completely obvious that there are multiple Reis. But as for her looking older than 4, there is a boundless source of ideas and things for anything, and likewise there are ways to explain Rei's looking 4 years old. They may have only decided to/saw the need to age her until after then. (Not that I really beleive that, like I said I beleive she was genetically engineered to be awesome, and probably was 3 when Yui died, though I do beleive that Rei died a few times)

And yes, she was genetically engineered to be awesome.

Cheers to that!

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Thu May 13, 2004 12:57 am

Bryal wrote:please correct me if im wrong, im just adding my opinion on rei's soul switching and unit - 00. unit-00 has a soul in it, the soul i think that is in it is rei's soul, the rei that is in the series the entire time has the soul of yui,

Yui is in Unit 01. That means she can't be in Rei.

Besides, it doesn't make any sense for Rei's soul to be anywhere other than Rei as long as she's still alive.

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:I have a hard time beleiving that Naoko 'almost' killed her, since it's made completely obvious that there are multiple Reis.

Yes, there are plenty of Reis, but only one of them ever has a soul. May I point out that Rei herself, two dummy plugs, and "spare parts" account for the 3-4 Reis that have been removed from the Reiquarium, thus leaving no room for this "The 6th Day" crap...

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Thu May 13, 2004 12:32 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:Yes, there are plenty of Reis, but only one of them ever has a soul. May I point out that Rei herself, two dummy plugs, and "spare parts" account for the 3-4 Reis that have been removed from the Reiquarium, thus leaving no room for this "The 6th Day" crap...

so which had the soul? the one that Naoko strangles right? being the 1st and all

and please elaborate on the '6th day' comment, i'm not quite on par with that... or are you talking about creation?...

HeartbreakerByZep · Post by **HeartbreakerByZep** » Thu May 13, 2004 2:29 pm

I don't beleive that the dummy plug is using a Rei body, there would be no point in putting a soulless, mindless body into a plug. Even if they can insert the Rei data into the useless body, the body serves little purpose in piloting EVA, and therefore it would be just as easy, and more practical, to just use the Rei data directly and not wasting time with a clone body.

If they can take Kaworu's soul and put it in Gendou's hand (which I beleive they can) then they can find a way to get Rei's soul into a body after death.

Kracus · Post by **Kracus** » Thu May 13, 2004 2:33 pm

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:If they can take Kaworu's soul and put it in Gendou's hand (which I beleive they can) then they can find a way to get Rei's soul into a body after death.

Where is that implied?

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Thu May 13, 2004 11:37 pm

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:If they can take Kaworu's soul and put it in Gendou's hand (which I beleive they can) then they can find a way to get Rei's soul into a body after death.

did you possibly mean Adam's soul, not Kaworu's?
and they didn't put adam's soul in it, it was adam's complete body that gendo fused into his hand.. you can still see tiny pieces of it exposing itself when it shows his hand

and i agree with the dummy plug talk, i think the dummy plugs have the same data that rei's body has, it's just that the dummy plugs are digital, that's why ritsuko said that it can't copy a soul, only a bad representation of one, rei's body on the other hand is biological, so it's possible that they can transfer or copy the soul to her bodies because they're not digital
...imo

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Fri May 14, 2004 4:41 pm

so which had the soul? the one that Naoko strangles right? being the 1st and all

Yup.

and please elaborate on the '6th day' comment, i'm not quite on par with that... or are you talking about creation?...

I'm talking about the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie "The 6th Day," wherein the bad guys keep dying and getting cloned over and over, retaining their memories each time. (question: why didn't they just make an army of like 200 of each bad guy and kill Arnold that way? 'cause they're stoopid, that's why)

HeartbreakerByZep wrote:I don't beleive that the dummy plug is using a Rei body

Ritsuko explicitly refers to the Rei clones as the cores of the dummy plugs.

Haha, you got pwnt by Ritsuko!

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Fri May 14, 2004 6:43 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:
HeartbreakerByZep wrote:I don't beleive that the dummy plug is using a Rei body
Ritsuko explicitly refers to the Rei clones as the cores of the dummy plugs.

Haha, you got pwnt by Ritsuko!

not really, what HBBZ meant was that the dummy plug system does not necessarily mean that it uses the actual body, they both have the same system and it's true that the rei clones are the core of the system like rei says, but you don't need a body to use the data in the dummy plugs system... thus explaining ritsuko's other quote of

ritsuko wrote:we cannot digitize a human mind, so these are merely pale imitations

or sumtin close to sounding like that..

so dummy system uses the data of the clones... but not the clone itself... afterall, it would indeed be useless to have a whole body inside the entry plug besides the pilot... and it wouldn't be consistant because they said that the dummy plug system doesn't work perfectly... but rei does, so her body isn't there
...this is all in the show of course

EvaXephon · Post by **EvaXephon** » Fri May 14, 2004 7:29 pm

...I always thought that Rei Number One's soul was in Eva-00. I don't know why, I just always thought so @_@;

I always thought that only 14-year-olds could pilot the Evangelions because only people conceived right at the moment of Second Impact could pilot the Evangelions. That would also mean that Shinji, Asuka, and Rei all have the same birthday. Maybe that's why birthdays never popped up in the series.

I wonder if it answers will be in the Evangelion Manga. It's already answered a lot. It may all take place in an alternate universe, but it is pretty interesting anyway.

Bryal · Post by **Bryal** » Fri May 14, 2004 8:54 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:
Bryal wrote:please correct me if im wrong, im just adding my opinion on rei's soul switching and unit - 00. unit-00 has a soul in it, the soul i think that is in it is rei's soul, the rei that is in the series the entire time has the soul of yui,
Yui is in Unit 01. That means she can't be in Rei.

Besides, it doesn't make any sense for Rei's soul to be anywhere other than Rei as long as she's still alive.

....how obvious

never really thought that one through