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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by wurpess » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:17 pm

OzzieAlThor79 wrote:I guess I never understood how fiercly people will defend loli stuff.

Would it be ok if I was using a real picutre of a 12-15 year old? Say one of you all's cousins or sisters?

Saying that one is real and one isn't doesn't cut it (in my ever so humble opinion) as the *intent* is to masturbate to underage children having sex.

I just cannot wrap my head around this stuff being a good thing or it in any way leading to something besides bad things.
Hey, all I'm saying is that they should either require that everyone in porn look 18+ in addition to being 18+, or allow loli hentai. Because, IMO, the some of the "legal" stuff is 10x worse than loli hentai, and probably much more likely to encourage pedophiles. So I feel it's unfair to knock one and allow the other, when the end result is really very similar.
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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by OzzieAlThor79 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:33 pm

wurpess wrote:
OzzieAlThor79 wrote:I guess I never understood how fiercly people will defend loli stuff.

Would it be ok if I was using a real picutre of a 12-15 year old? Say one of you all's cousins or sisters?

Saying that one is real and one isn't doesn't cut it (in my ever so humble opinion) as the *intent* is to masturbate to underage children having sex.

I just cannot wrap my head around this stuff being a good thing or it in any way leading to something besides bad things.
Hey, all I'm saying is that they should either require that everyone in porn look 18+ in addition to being 18+, or allow loli hentai. Because, IMO, the some of the "legal" stuff is 10x worse than loli hentai, and probably much more likely to encourage pedophiles. So I feel it's unfair to knock one and allow the other, when the end result is really very similar.
I can understand that.

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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by hasteroth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:03 pm

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Post by megaman917 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:51 pm

Word to the wise: avoid posting links to Sankaku.
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Post by hasteroth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:53 pm

megaman917 wrote:Word to the wise: avoid posting links to Sankaku.
Ah... I didn't see that... Oops.
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Post by hasteroth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:54 pm

Please remove that link! >.<
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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by hasteroth » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:56 pm

Don't click the link >_<

[quote=Sanaku Complex ]Emboldened by their success in turning over the craven eroge industry, Japan’s own spineless politicians are once again obediently heeding international demands for a complete ban on artistic depictions of minors engaged in sexual activity.

The latest assault on the artistic freedoms guaranteed by the Japanese Constitution comes from the Komeito (”Clean Government Party”), which exclusively represents the interests of a Buddhist cult, the Sokka Gakkai, and consequently is a great fan of censorship and attempting to legislate public morality. UNICEF Japan honcho Agnes Chan herself is a member of the cult.

Responding to the usual outrageous international claims that Japan is causing child abuse and encouraging lolicon in other countries with its liberal laws on pornography, the Komeito obediently proclaimed that Japan should obey these demands:

“Being called ‘a child porn power’ is shameful and we must act to rectify this by an immediate revision of the law. The Diet must immediately consider such a revision.”
Domestic politicians often like to claim Japan “is out of step” or “lagging” compared to other countries when they wish to push through a policy, and in this case they have also been claiming it is “a national disgrace” to be defamed by feminists and their ilk.

They go on to make a lengthy screed against the evils of child pornography, as usual failing to register the fact that Japan is vastly more safe for children than any of the nations so concerned with banning the material.

Then they reveal the latest direction in their thought:

“Further, last month we conducted an investigation at Akihabara, looking at those games and similar depicting sexual violence which fall outside the scope of current laws, and how their sale might be restricted. We as a party are absolutely determined to pursue a revised law which lead to a complete elimination of child pornography.”
2ch wryly remarks that it is the Komeito who should be eliminated from Japanese politics.

In 2008, the laws against such pornography were stiffened, but the LDP dodged the messy issue of whether to ban 2D artistic depictions of sex involving minors by deferring judgement to a later date. The Komeito is clearly aiming to obtain immediate additional restrictions.

The Komeito is a minor party, but has long held disproportionate influence due to its willingness to ally with the ruling LDP. It remains to be seen whether the LDP will side with them in making further assaults on freedom of expression.

The recent self imposed ban on “rape” in adult games was imposed by an industry short-sightedly opting to secure the sales of the majority of companies by sacrificing the minority to appease the moralists.

The industry seems set to repeat this dismal calculus with loli and any other politically objectionable genres, and it is possible that manga, anime and who knows what else will fall prey to censors next, especially with politicians encouraged by the postiviely supine response seen so far.

As expected, the lack of any enthusiastic or organised opposition to creeping censorship has only emboldened those who would force their moralistic views onto society. It is a slippery slope and a long way down…
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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by Ishbalan » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:19 am

Special thanks to wurpess. You inspired a great closing argument for my essay.

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Re: Thoughts on this story?

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Re: Thoughts on this story?

Post by hasteroth » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:47 am

OMG. I read that one... Rori Ana right?
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