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Post by Mroni » Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:22 am

I laughed my ass off when all the egyptians were dying in prince of Egypt it was hoho funny I think or was that Haha funny? Anyway Most anime are funny. So thats kind of a dull point. I would like to see Wile E Coyote and Keitaro try to kill each other that fight would last for hours. I will name one big difference between American cartoons and Japanese Cartoons. Ones made for Japanese to understand the Others for Americans. Cultural references are what set the two apart.



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Post by OrenTheSaiyan » Sat Oct 26, 2002 8:11 am

:shock: THIS IS STILL GOING ON! Geez....will this be the longest thread ever?
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Post by The Non-Professional » Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:37 am

OrenTheSaiyan wrote::shock: THIS IS STILL GOING ON! Geez....will this be the longest thread ever?
actually the longest thread i ever saw was 156 pages long

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Post by battousai_the_manslayer » Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:11 am

Just curious -- what do you consider shows like the old Transformers (and I believe Rainbow Brite as well) which were animated in Japan for American audiences?

Not that I like to call anime "cartoons" - I just don't think there's always a clear-cut line to separate the two.
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Post by Gatsthedarksword » Sat Oct 26, 2002 12:47 pm

personally i agreee with clara that it's an insult to call anime a artoon just because of the thought behind that word cause thats whats important, the thoughts that words induce, cartton has that conotation to it that makes everyone think "cartoony" and kind of that kiddy mind set. i understand it's kind of a rediculus argument and forgive me if i repeat things already said but words and thought go hand in hand and while words in themselves don't have anything wrong with them, but it's a fact that certain words induce certain thoughts. so in order to change thoughts we need to change the language. anime: sounds japanese, used all over to seperate them from american cartoons, it's good word hat brings out the good thoughts for it's object. cartoon: american in origin, used as a general discription for all animated things, brings out a sort of a childish thought, now anyone who has seen anime knows that watching it with a childish thought will make you miss all the important things and avoid all the hatred caused by certain scenes like in the end of berserk, it's a rape and if you miss it you have no idea why gats hates griffith with so much passion. so i believe that by using certain language we can encourage a certain thought process and thats whats wrong with anime too many people get the wrong idea with all the blood and guts and sex, and so we obviously need to change the way anime is thought of and this, while it is a small step, is one in the right direction
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Post by Sub0 » Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:00 pm

:D least you can see that Clara is thinking. She made like.... 12 contradictions in this thread. Most of which were in the first few pages but the latest,
you say anime deals with 'special love feelings'? Weren't you just complaining about Hentai, where none of the girls smile, they should be happy to be in such a special position :? well some of em... :lol: . Or is Hentai not anime... cuz Tsuji is under the assumption that you are lumping all anime together, I don't think you are. I just don't think you know what your talking about. :twisted:

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Post by Engar » Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:33 pm

Clara might not have a clear argument but she's just fighting the good fight for the rights of Anime. What I mean is that a lot of Anime (not all of course) is above the kiddy stuff that a lot of cartoons (not all of course) are. I have to deal with this every time I watch an anime, my mum insists on calling Cowboy Be-Bop "Baby Be-Bop" which is more than a little annoying considering it isn't at all a baby programme.

I'm not saying I'm completely on one side, just that Clara's argument doesn't deserve all the flak it's recieving.

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Post by Angel_Killer_777 » Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:43 pm

The Non-Professional wrote:
OrenTheSaiyan wrote::shock: THIS IS STILL GOING ON! Geez....will this be the longest thread ever?
actually the longest thread i ever saw was 156 pages long
I think we pushed What Does This Word Mean To You III to over 500 pages.
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Post by Tsuji Mania » Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:24 pm

Clara might not have a clear argument but she's just fighting the good fight for the rights of Anime. What I mean is that a lot of Anime (not all of course) is above the kiddy stuff that a lot of cartoons (not all of course) are. I have to deal with this every time I watch an anime, my mum insists on calling Cowboy Be-Bop "Baby Be-Bop" which is more than a little annoying considering it isn't at all a baby programme.

I'm not saying I'm completely on one side, just that Clara's argument doesn't deserve all the flak it's recieving.
Flak? I'm not giving it flak. I'm just pointing out that it is incorrect.

You cannot possibly say there are no animated pieces from Japan that aren't cartoons. Just like you can hardly say that all animated pieces from America are cartoons.

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Post by Tsuji Mania » Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:26 pm

personally i agreee with clara that it's an insult to call anime a artoon
Well I agree with Clara they it's an insult to call them "artoons" as well. But if you agree that it is an insult to call them cartoons then you're just as stubborn and ignorant.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but when you grow up, you'll see what a jackass you were.

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