Fanfiction writers

ryuu_hime13 · Post by **ryuu_hime13** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:48 pm

I've read some really great fanfic out there that took a LOT of creativity! It kind of annoys me when people bash fanfic writers. I'm not gonna say I'm a fan of all fanfic - in fact, a good deal of it annoys me. I'm kind of a harsh critic and I tend to be picky about my fanfic, especially if it involves pairings, yaoi or otherwise. I don't write any myself. I'd like to someday, but I prefer original fiction, none of which I feel comfortable posting online since I have a fear of it being stolen and I'd like to go somewhere with it in the future. But reading well-written fanfic is a lot of fun.

Mika Rieu · Post by **Mika Rieu** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:13 am

My only real problem with fanfics, is when the author adds a little part in there were him/her start randomly interfering with the charictors in the stories. I don't think I'm explaining this right. Well the character is walking doing what ever the author wrote then suddenly the author pops out of nowhere and changes everything. If the author wants to be a part of the story they should make up a character that represents themselves. I also don't like pairings were one person goes with like 20 different people before finding that 'one true love'. Anyway thats my main problem with some peoples Fanfics.

I don't trust the internet to much to post my fanfics. I started posting one called 'Amnesia' a DBZ fanfic on fanfiction.net but I only put the first chapter on then stoped. Since then I have written many but I'm not going to post them until I make my own web site. o.o;; Am I just paranoid?

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:26 pm

I';m trying to look for authors that are serious about their work. DOnt give me wrong all you other writers, but most fanfic writers think of silly stories that makes the characters of the animes look pathetic. I write fics that has the theme of the series but dont rip off the characters or make them look out of character. Sure I can be acused as an unoriginal guy that has no life, but i write in respect to the fics. I dont write all lovely do romances nor romances that shouldnt exists, like Youi's or Yuri's. Those things disgust me. I mean no disrespect to anyone who has worked hard on their works, but do you actually took some effort in it or was your work just a thought in the head that turned into something stupid. There are only a few of those that would write fics like Gundam Wing in a way that gives the anime a good image. I admit that my own writings are long from being perfect, but i do my best everyday to make it into an epic that i'd be proud to call a work of my own, even if it is a fanfic.

And NO, I dont call this SPAM, i am a member of this fourm, and I'm just speaking out.

I Crimson Blade I · Post by **I Crimson Blade I** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:16 pm

I dont write all lovely do romances nor romances that shouldnt exists, like Youi's or Yuri's. Those things disgust me.

Agreed there, its not a fan fiction if it has that, it becomes a porn story. If two charaters come out of a room together after doing it thats fine with me to an extent, but there is no need to get into any details.

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:23 am

damn straight! also i've read recently a fic where a guy puts his story in there and outshines all the characters in the anime, making them all look bad. I hate that! Sure I make a charater image of myself, but i do compare my character to others. I dont over do the outshining part and my character makes sense, some ppl just placed themselves in for the hell of it.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:30 am

I Crimson Blade I wrote:
I dont write all lovely do romances nor romances that shouldnt exists, like Youi's or Yuri's. Those things disgust me.
Agreed there, its not a fan fiction if it has that, it becomes a porn story.

What country do you live in? The Soviet Union?

Since when is a 'lovey dovey' romance a porn story? If you're an American, you seriously need to study the fiction market a little better. For all the horror and mystery genres might get good ranks on the bestseller lists, it's those 'lovey dovey porn' stories that get bought the most, and remembered best - making the authors multi-millionaires. I seriously doubt the little sheltered house wives reading those books would be quite so willing to pay for them if they were 'porn stories.'

Now if you were talking about NC-17 fics, then yes - that's close enough to porn to be labeled erotica. But don't for a second try to pretend that just because a book features two guys or two girls that it's porn and not romance. If you say that, then you're a close-minded sexist who can go back in time and write with Plato - leaving the modern world of fiction authors to do what the readers like without being censored just because someone doesn't see guys as capable of anything but 'porn.'

Quite frankly, there is a market for romance books that feature homosexual characters. Not porn - you can already buy those little 10pg magazines and booklets in your local porn shop. But since you're probably under 18, you wouldn't know that. I mean legitimate *romance* stories. One of last year's best sellers (highest ranking books published in the US for the year of 2003) was a story about two boys who ended up in a broken relationship (together) as adults. It included scenes that were as 'non-porn' as any you'd find in a legitimate romance book (Julie Garwood, Johana Lindsay, Kathleen E. Woodiwiss, or the elderly Barbara Cartland - all sell millions but don't skimp on the erotically light 'porn' scenes when they do romances).

Just for a fun comparison, reading that post is like walking onto a tobacco farm and listening to the righteous farmer lecture his daughter. "Honey, he's black. If you marry him, you're a whore. There's no such thing as legitimate romance unless I like the two people who are in love with each other and think they belong together."

Only difference? My fictional farmer has better grammar.

If two charaters come out of a room together after doing it thats fine with me to an extent, but there is no need to get into any details.

Maybe you should write complaints to every single publisher for the millions of romance novels being sold every day at your local Walmart. If the authors just did the old 'and then it fades to black' I can guarantee their sales would drop. It sounds like you're either too young to be widely read, or are a male who has no idea what romance novels (the successful ones) entail. Love scenes are found in almost every single one. Even the very old (but still sold and loved) romance novels featured more than just the couples 'walking out of a room together after doing it'. So if that makes you uncomfortable - reading detailed and tasteful descriptions of the physical act that often epitomizes human love - then you shouldn't be touching romance of any kind. You'd stick out like a sore thumb in the US fiction market, or would be geared toward the 15yr old younger 'teenage' readers whose parents don't think they know what sex is and who believe kissing is the first step to sin.

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:49 am

Ok, I dont cae about a really sappy romance fic, but i dont like lemons, nor do i like youi. It disgusts me on what weird ideas ppl think up with betweer guy characters.

Hey, I live in the US, and even though thereis the thing on gay marriages, writing it seems to be wrong in the same concpt. Sure I'm not stopping any of those writers, i respect their taste in fictions, but i dont. I dont get it.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:19 pm

Excalibur00 wrote:Ok, I dont cae about a really sappy romance fic, but i dont like lemons, nor do i like youi. It disgusts me on what weird ideas ppl think up with betweer guy characters.

Oh, I don't mind if it disgusts you, or if you're a bible follower who thinks homosexuality equates to sin. That's personal preference after all.

I just disagree that sex in writing is 'porn' when it features two men or two women - but not considered porn when it features a man and woman and is sold in a retail store without so much as a PG-13 warning. Now..if you consider any detailed sex scene in writing as 'porn' - including all of the romance novels being sold - then that's fine. ^_^ It's just a matter of opinion there. My great grandmother thinks wearing a skirt that is less than 3 feet long is a sign of a prostitute. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion on what is and is not 'sinful' and porn fits right in there. After all - hentai is how a lot of American's learn of anime - but very very few people on the list talk about it. Why? Because whether a lot like it or not, others consider it disturbing. Opinions.

/end rant

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:51 pm

This is some great cosmic spiral here. When i see fanfic writers, I see my buddy (name withheld) who lives in his parent's basement, churning out fanfic after fanfic, totally abhorring real life. He's 24 years old and has never even kissed a girl, or held a job. poor sucker. he also owns a suspiciously disturbing collection of incest stories. (admittedly, his mom is HOT, but seriously)
He's short, fat, and has very little in the way of social graces. I use him for his extensive anime, (which he can recite verbatim, and could even tell you the color of the stripe on the flying Bugrom) and I do it shamelessly. He's Otaku Uh Oh. Another fanfic writer fancies himself the modern day Kenshin. Everything he has is related to Kenshin. He thought he could beat me up with the 'hiten mitsurugi style of sword combat', so I hit him in the face and broke his nose. He also knew how to glitch Final Fantasy 10 to getr 99999999 on everything (could give a shit less)

Another fanfic writer I know hasn't bathed in three weeks and has a extensive collection of hentai and 'furry' porn. He's a complete shmuzz. He also wants me to teach him to make AMV's. I told him to go fuck himself.

Do I see myself better than them? of course. Anime is a hobby, not a way of life. The same goes for everything else. Show me a better example, someone you could introduce me to, face to face. Someone who isn't a total loss, a waste of genetic space. Please. I really need to reaffirm that there still is intelligent life out there.

ryuu_hime13 · Post by **ryuu_hime13** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:33 pm

::blinks:: You know, there ARE a good deal of anime fans out there who have lives...myself included. I don't know ANYONE as bad as the people you mentioned above. For someone who claims to have a life outside anime (which I'm quite sure you do, don't worry) you know a lot of really interesting folks.

Please, people, do NOT get this thread locked!