Arigatomyna wrote:I read the subtitled version was aired in May 2001, but it could have been the site. ;ppaizuri wrote:Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust was a US-Japan co-production between Urban Vision and Madhouse Studios. Basically, the head of UV learned that Madhouse wanted to make a sequel to the first one so they helped fund the effort and also provided the sound and music direction. However, it was a japanese script, animated and directed by a japanese studio. Also, although the language track was only in English, it debuted in Japanese theatres in April 2001 with a japanese subtitle track. The theatrical debut in the US was in September 2001. The japanese may not have been the target audience, but they were certainly not left out.
But this is good because we've identified what it takes to be 'anime' on this site. It doesn't matter who pays for the show to be made (US in both cases), or who controls the audio (US in both cases), or what style the animation is (Japanese in both cases).
To be considered anime, the show must be based on a Japanese script, directed by a Japanese person, and released in Japan (with subtitles if the original language is not Japanese).
[Maybe something should be in there about which country owns the copyright, but I couldn't find proof for VHDB, so I left that out - some sources claim Urban Vision 'owns' all rights and control over the release of the animated movie, others claim it's owned jointly by both companies and the Japanese just let Urban Vision make the rules - both countries - I don't have confirmation either way.]
You could put that in the rules and settle a lot of arguments before they start, you know. I've always pushed clearly defined terms as to what is and is not anime on this website - if you put it in the rules, no one will be able to say they didn't know if it was considered anime or not.
No, the reasoning for The Last Unicorn and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust should not be considered the definitive "what is" for how we define anime here. They are only used in our arguments about the "gray area" shows that require further thought and should not be applied to everything. As I mentioned earlier, we decide one way or another on a case-by-case basis if these gray area shows are anime or not.Arigatomyna wrote:A number of the scripts were written by the Wachowski brothers, and the entire concept came from them. So it fails to fit the "must be based on a Japanese script" requirement.badmartialarts wrote:*cough*Animatrix?*cough*
So unless anime means nothing more than "directed by a Japanese person and released in Japan," the Animatrix is not anime.
Heh, part of it's live action. That's definitely not anime in any sense of the 'animation' term. You'd have to break it into the different sections, only including the animated parts that were based on Japanese scripts (if any of them were).
Correction - it's CG to the point where if it were a Japanese game, we wouldn't allow it on the org because it isn't done in 'anime' style (like the FF games are).
Although The Animatrix is indeed questionable as a whole, several parts of it were directed and animated by japanese directors and animation studios and it was deemed more expedient to include the entire entity as a whole rather than cite each separate part.
If you're not sure what is anime or not, www.animenewsnetwork.com has a large list of shows that they consider anime that we generally agree with. If you'll notice, both Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and The Animatrix are listed there and The Last Unicorn is not.
