YGO Fans here?

older_gohan · Post by **older_gohan** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:13 am

The spell speed of emergency provisions is slower than self-destruct. It wouldn't work. Although I am sure I can find a card that can get that to work. Give me a few.

Ledah · Post by **Ledah** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:59 am

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........

I say it can't work....

Because the wall would resolve last....

Therefore you can't activate the button because you still have 8000 LP's

EmilLang1000 · Post by **EmilLang1000** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:18 pm

You know, I really don't like the Advanced format, considering I've played since the beginning. Someone said to me "I stopped playing because you'd always see Chaos Emperor Dragon, use it to destroy Sangan, and Yata-lock for the win."

Right. Like that strategy EVER worked the way people wanted it to. Seriously, if you know what you're doing, ESPECIALLY in traditional, Chaos Emperor Dragon chaining with Sangan is NOT that bad. Hell, think of HOW many spells or traps would stop that before it went of: Torrential Tribute, Bottomless Trap Hole, Ring of Destruction... there's got to be at least 100. This guy apparently thought that CED's ability was a multi-trigger, and thus was a SS-2 ability. WRONG. And even IF they managed to get it to go off, say hello to a little friend of mine named Sinister Serpent, or how about 15 other things that return from the graveyard to play. What makes CED broken is that you can kill your opponent in a single turn with A SINGLE CARD, no combo.

Seriously, UD said they wanted tournies to be such that any casual player can enter and have a chance of winning, but it's even WORSE now. The most powerful cards are ultra-rares, and only people who pour money into it ever win in tournies. They've banned some of the most BASIC cards, MOST of which are COMMONS, so that cookie-cutters now run wild. Back in the day, everyone DID play with a lot of the same things... you EXPECTED a deck to have Monster Reborn, Dark Hole, Change of Heart, Pot of Greed, Sangan, Witch of the Black Forest and PROBABLY Raigeki, Harpie's Feather Duster, Jinzo, and Call of the Haunted. But from there out, past those ten or so, decks varied like crazy. Now, everyone's so into "I have to have the best deck out there, so I'm gonna look it up on the internet" that an actually original deck is rare as Hell.

Anyone else remember the days when you could go out, buy a Kaiba Starter Deck, 4 packs of cards, maybe a tin, and have a deck worthy of a tourney? I do, and I weep for the lost days of originality in deck construction...

Ledah · Post by **Ledah** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:23 pm

I can remember..........

But thats in the old days........
O well......

diamondtron01 · Post by **diamondtron01** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:34 pm

Ok, I knew it probably wouldn't work.

But hey, souldn't the first two cards work in sync? Wall of Revealing Light and Self Destruct button.

Ledah · Post by **Ledah** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:39 pm

Yeah.

But why force the draw???

EmilLang1000 · Post by **EmilLang1000** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:49 pm

yeah, except one thing, buddy... you CAN'T sacrifice 500LP... it has to be in incriments of 1000. Plus, I hate to say it, but that combo is just BAD, and you wanna know why? a little friend of mine called Ring of Destruction; or his buddies, Catapult Turtle, Trap Jammer, Seven Tools of the Bandit, Call of the Haunted to get Jinzo, or Destruction Ring.

You're assuming you opponent is at full points, first of all; secondly, you're sacrificing nearly ALL of your LP to try to make a gamble work.

Let me explain something about saccing LP. I've run Cyber-Stein since I first created my deck, by combining my Kaiba Starter with an imported Japanese Kaiba Structure and a few cards I pulled from packs; today, my deck is about 95% as it was back then, and still works just as well. HOWEVER, I don't just randomly use Cyber-Stein to pull Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon. First, I make sure they don't have traps on the field; if they do, I either use Jinzo or Harpie's Feather Duster to eliminate them. On the off chance I don't have either of those, and my ONLY option is to play Steiny, I don't go for my BEUD... I pull in Thousand-Eyes Restrict.

Whenever sacrificing my Life Points, I make sure I have COMPLETE control of the situation, and if I don't, I always make sure to have several contigency plans.

Yours relies a little too much on specific circumstances and gambits. While, yes, it can win the game, it's going to only maybe ONCE out of twenty duels against a competant player. The major problem is, you can't control your opponents' life points NEARLY as much as you need to for this. If they reduce their LP to eve less than 7999, it's useless; all they need to do is sac them to a Magical Scientist, Cyber-Stein, Injection Angel Lilly, or any one of a number of other cards... OR, they do AoE damage like with Ring of Destruction. Sorry, man, but combos need to be universal, or if they DO rely on specific cirumstances, you need to be able to control those circumstances ENTIRELY.

Ledah · Post by **Ledah** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:05 pm

He's right.........

diamondtron01 · Post by **diamondtron01** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:13 pm

Yeah, your right, I forgot about that. But given the right time and circumstances, anything can happen. Besides, "if you go down, take someone with ya". And by the way,

YOU HAVE A CYBERSTEIN

That card is worth over $22,000. There's only supposed to be a few in the world. I envy you.

Ledah · Post by **Ledah** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:19 pm

But I wouldn't recomended for a deck........

Most decks can attack you directly so paying 5000 for one monster is pretty risky........