Thoughts on this story?

[Vivaldi]

But fapping to manga should fit into the equation anywhere, it's pictures DRAWN on paper.

Fix'd

Because photos are still paper.

But the act itself wouldn't be wrong, because it's still ink and paper. It's the fact that a photo implies the event actually occurred. A photorealistic 3d rendering isn't any worse than a stick figure doodle to anything other than your sensabilities. A line needs to be drawn in the sand somewhere. I say it should be the line between what's real, and what's not.

[hasteroth]

But fapping to manga should fit into the equation anywhere, it's pictures DRAWN on paper.

Fix'd

Because photos are still paper.

But the act itself wouldn't be wrong, because it's still ink and paper. It's the fact that a photo implies the event actually occurred. A photorealistic 3d rendering isn't any worse than a stick figure doodle to anything other than your sensabilities. A line needs to be drawn in the sand somewhere. I say it should be the line between what's real, and what's not.

Exactly

[outlawed]

I am at a loss for words with this thread.

The only thing I can do is share some fun.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/co ... raged_over

[Sukunai]

Well I suppose the worst thing that should be possible, from wanking to a picture, is a paper cut.

But ask yourself this, you walk into a room, and you find a guy over 20, boner in full use, fapping as fast as he can, and he's looking to lose his load looking at a naked girl under the age of 12.

What is your response?
Really?

What if it's a picture of a girl you know?
What if it's you sister, your niece, your daughter?

Is it ok, that it's just a picture and your sister/niece/daughter is in no danger of suffering actual harm?
Then again, how did they get the picture?

Does it make a damn bit of difference if the picture is imaginary, a non real person?
How about this, imagine the person has both types of pictures handy?
Go a little further, they have a picture of your sister/niece/daughter, and then a drawing of your sister/niece/daughter in some extreme sexual situation.

Does any of this not totally bother you?

I am fully aware that persons under 13 are a lot less developed both mentally and physically.
After 13 it's mostly just mentally not fully developed.
Likely explains a lot of teen age pregnancies.
Fully able to screw, not fully able to enjoy it intelligently.

That's why not all of our laws/safe guards are well thought out.
Yeah, totally prohibit sex for the under 13, but as for the over 13, yet under 20, it's not that they need to not engage in sex, they need to be saved from just not thinking it through in most cases.

A 13 year old girl being ok having sex with a guy older than 20 needs to be told to stick to her own age range.
And a guy older than 20 needs to be told to get his shit together and stick to his own age range too.
It's not a crime, it's just bloody irresponsible behaviour.

[hasteroth]

Sukunai. We're talking about drawings of fictional characters. Not photographs.

And btw I hate hentai that is drawn to look like real people.

[Vivaldi]

Well I suppose the worst thing that should be possible, from wanking to a picture, is a paper cut.

But ask yourself this, you walk into a room, and you find a guy over 20, boner in full use, fapping as fast as he can, and he's looking to lose his load looking at a naked girl under the age of 12.

What is your response?

I'd tell him to either do it in his own room or get a lock.

What if it's a picture of a girl you know?
What if it's you sister, your niece, your daughter?

Is it ok, that it's just a picture and your sister/niece/daughter is in no danger of suffering actual harm?
Then again, how did they get the picture?

I believe I already addressed the point that a photograph implies the event either took place (If explicit) Or the person has a fixation on a very specific individuel (If not). So no, it's not the same at all/

Does it make a damn bit of difference if the picture is imaginary, a non real person?

Yes, in fact I think it makes a certifiably huge difference. And if that appeal to fear above was supposed to prove that, it certainly did no such thing.

How about this, imagine the person has both types of pictures handy?
Go a little further, they have a picture of your sister/niece/daughter, and then a drawing of your sister/niece/daughter in some extreme sexual situation.

I...What? You're pulling just random situations out of your ass. I could just as easily say "You walk in on a guy playing the game world domination on his iphone. But what if he has a real nuclear launch button with him? Wouldn't you be worried?"

I could respond to that completely irrelevant point, but I already did so at the top of this post. Check there.

Does any of this not totally bother you?

If he had a real picture or a drawing of a real person that he knows on a personal level. Then yes, I'd be very bothered.

I am fully aware that persons under 13 are a lot less developed both mentally and physically.
After 13 it's mostly just mentally not fully developed.
Likely explains a lot of teen age pregnancies.
Fully able to screw, not fully able to enjoy it intelligently.

That's why not all of our laws/safe guards are well thought out.
Yeah, totally prohibit sex for the under 13, but as for the over 13, yet under 20, it's not that they need to not engage in sex, they need to be saved from just not thinking it through in most cases.

A 13 year old girl being ok having sex with a guy older than 20 needs to be told to stick to her own age range.
And a guy older than 20 needs to be told to get his shit together and stick to his own age range too.
It's not a crime, it's just bloody irresponsible behaviour.

And this I agree with. Though I think teens are plenty mentally developed, and most would know not to have sex like that. Those who do are those who would be just as stupid when they're grown up.

[Pas]

And btw I hate hentai that is drawn to look like real people.

We know. It's ok that you appreciate the other, less appreciated parts of the H industry.

<Niotex> Look at him go
<Niotex> Running for his loli's
<Fall_Child42> his guro lolis
<ngsilver> [16:33] <hasteroth|> I just loves the guro lolis
<Fall_Child42> they are all decapitated and shit
<Pas> lmao
<yoko|> shitting dick nipples that way! -->
<Pas> oh snap.
<Pas> so hasteroth is into guro?
<Niotex> Yup
<Fall_Child42> yup
<ngsilver> apears so

Guro loli > Real people

Amirite?

[hasteroth]

no. Don't bring it here!

[hasteroth]

And I hate guro

[ngsilver]

But the logs, they do not lie!