Gundam series.

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:01 am

Heero_Yuy84 wrote:
OK...smartass response aside:

If I have offended your tastes as far as the general formalities of common converse, I would like to formally and sincerely offer up my humble apologies. Please forgive my indescretion.

That being said, does char ever have a big American disco dance party? Or is he just interested in fighting all the time? I wish Gundam woul came back to AS so I caould remember it...

Karou_ken · Post by **Karou_ken** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:56 pm

I prefer the tiny cute robots in SD Gundam.

ryuu_hime13 · Post by **ryuu_hime13** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:30 pm

Are you serious?!

I remember hearing somewhere that SD was released in the US before Japan. I can just imagine what the Japanese must have been thinking.

Japanese: Stupd Americans! They fucked Gundam up! I KNEW IT!!!

Really, though, it doesn't seem "Gundam" at all.

Twilight_Bringer · Post by **Twilight_Bringer** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:37 am

ryuu_hime13 wrote:Are you serious?!

I remember hearing somewhere that SD was released in the US before Japan. I can just imagine what the Japanese must have been thinking.

Japanese: Stupd Americans! They fucked Gundam up! I KNEW IT!!!

Really, though, it doesn't seem "Gundam" at all.

i can just smell a copyright lawsuit... wait... i wonder what those smell like?... lol... anways... yes... sd gundam is fucked up... but... it's not as bad as g gundam... come on... it was like... "i can like kick you and you will explode"... that's not like gundam at all... you never use fists in gundam... you use a beam rifle... or a beam sabre... anyone have a favorite weapon?... mine is the super beam rifle that heero (i think i spelled that right) had from gundam wing... very cool... and very powerful...

Charagon · Post by **Charagon** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:21 pm

Wing is by far my favorite Gundam series. Lots of people don't understand that while the story is supposed to be similiar to UC Gundam, the presentation isn't. Wing is very heavy on philosophy concepts. It's not supposed to be an accurate representation about war. It's supposed to be a representation about the philosophy behind war.

And if you don't like machines that take massive damage and never show it, how do you explain White Base?

Anyway, Wing rules.

So does the original series, 8th MS team, and G-Gundam as far as that goes.

I hated the 0080/0083 series. So stupid. Didn't much care for Char's Counterattack either, but I think that was largely due to that annoying brat and her refusal to either get off the screen or die.

I haven't seen enough of Zeta or Gundam X to form a solid opinion, but of what I've seen of Gundam X I really liked. Can't say the same about Zeta.

Oh, and Superior Defender sucks, but it looks fantastic.

Heero_Yuy84 · Post by **Heero_Yuy84** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:36 pm

ryuu_hime13 wrote:Are you serious?!

I remember hearing somewhere that SD was released in the US before Japan. I can just imagine what the Japanese must have been thinking.

Japanese: Stupd Americans! They fucked Gundam up! I KNEW IT!!!

Really, though, it doesn't seem "Gundam" at all.

Actually, the Japanese can't say that...even if it's initial audience target WAS in fact the CN set, the thing is that the Japanese still made it (and if you check the Japanese cast, even got some Gundam alumni to work on it...Ikeda...what were you thinking?)

Besides, I think part of the reason the US getting it first...I think part of that ties into the fact they were trying to use it to widen the SD marketing line over here (Japan's already had it for some time, except it was originally meaning Super Deformed, and was chibi versions of already existing MS)
Plus the fact they've already had an SD series over there for some time now (using SDed versions of UC MS and characters in odd comedy skits...odd, but one Hell of a lot funnier than what's been running in the US)

Charagon

As for the Wing rule...actually, if you rewatch, the old RX-78 still incurs more damages (including but not limited to: Getting it's cockpit sliced open, taking excessive damage to the shield on several occasions, having the eyes destroyed, having a leg seared off, and several others...and White Base also takes it's share of noticable damages, granted they don't always stick out but they're there (right now the top example I can think to give is around the ep 30 mark, where they spent a few eps going with a few holes in the hull, the most noticable being on one of the hangars)...at least, by comparison to, say, Wing Gundam which only seems to get damaged either
a) When Heero self-destructs
or
b) When it's deemed convenient for the story line...

p.s. Trust me, while GX is good, Zeta surpasses in the long run (granted in GX's defense, getting cancelled did kind of rush the ending...but even without the comparison, Zeta is one of the better series out there, especially in the latter half)

(/ramblings)

Charagon · Post by **Charagon** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:38 pm

and White Base also takes it's share of noticable damages, granted they don't always stick out but they're there (right now the top example I can think to give is around the ep 30 mark, where they spent a few eps going with a few holes in the hull, the most noticable being on one of the hangars)...at least, by comparison to, say, Wing Gundam which only seems to get damaged either
a) When Heero self-destructs
or
b) When it's deemed convenient for the story line...

I know White Base showed damage once in a blue moon, but still for the most part that ship seemed pretty damn indestructable considering the punishment the thing took while treking through all that enemy terrority. Especially compared to things like Amuro's shilds (which seemed to made of the same stuff as your average Leo in Wing).

It's just one of the things that I noticed when watching it after constantly having Wing haters tell me UC is better because it's so much realistic.

I never had a problem with the Gundam's being indestructable really, (I'd like to know how they figured one shot from a beam gun would take out Deathscythe when they had Trowa blow it up. I've concluded that they didn't want to risk the embarrasment of not being able to publicly demolish the thing so they built a dummy and scrapped the original.

What I did have a problem with was the jobber aura that Leo's displayed when piloted by Gundam pilots. Most noteworthy being Duo's trip to the moon where he's hit a dozens of times and doesn't explode.

ryuu_hime13 · Post by **ryuu_hime13** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:16 pm

I think what you said above applies to all Gundams...they're only really damaged when it's suitable for the plots. From what I've heard, Gundam Wing is probably the most dramatic of the Gundam series. Though I think Seed is supposed to be like that too....

Twilight_Bringer · Post by **Twilight_Bringer** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:33 pm

ryuu_hime13 wrote:I think what you said above applies to all Gundams...they're only really damaged when it's suitable for the plots. From what I've heard, Gundam Wing is probably the most dramatic of the Gundam series. Though I think Seed is supposed to be like that too....

well... these gundams are made out of gundamium (i think i spelled that right)... well i think most of the gundams were made out of it... anyways... gundamium could be stronger than most metals... though i is made up i think... still... gundamium explains why gundams can take so much... as for mass produced moblie suit... zaku, leos, etc... they must have cut down on cost to mass prduce soo many... though... in seed... with the phase shift... i don't really know anything about that.... but the fact that the gundamium used to make the gundam is altared when it changes... anways... beat that... i like to argue... i'm not mean... i just like gundam a lot...

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:50 pm

TB, I'm with you! Who doesn't like Gundam? I mean, when you throw in the light explosions and all the dancing...what's not to love? Answer=...nothing.