The Horror, the sheer absolute Horror

angelx03 · Post by **angelx03** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:40 pm

I think Sunrise animated Batman Beyond. If you think about it, it makes sense; heck, look at Big O.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:26 pm

ReannaKing wrote:I'm seeing this "animization" trend EVERYWHERE. I realize this can't last long but it's really making me sick the way our culture is exploiting something like anime.

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You say that as if anime was some great pure art form that's nobody's business but the <s>Turks</s> Japanese, and no one else has any place trying to emulate it.

It's been said far too many times before in this thread and in other places: cultures borrowing from other cultures happens ALL THE TIME. Anime borrowed, and now it's being borrowed from. Get over it.

ReannaKing wrote:I guess what bothers me the most is that it feels like <b>they expect people like us to buy into stuff like that</b>. It insults my sensibilities, taste and intelligence.

But they <b>don't</b>! It's obvious that they're aiming these shows at the preteen crowd, who would probably be more likely to watch, say, Yu-gi-oh! than, say, Cowboy Bebop.

If they were trying to attract our crowd, then they'd make a show with a more mature plot, theme, etc. And they probably wouldn't put it on Nickelodeon.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:30 pm

Scintilla wrote: If they were trying to attract our crowd, then they'd make a show with a more mature plot, theme, etc. And they probably wouldn't put it on Nickelodeon.

...which brings me back to the point that, unfortunately, there is still no mainstream channel aimed at the age/interest group of older-teens-and-above who are partial to anime. That market still relies on home video primarily. And maybe rightly so, since we don't really know how marketable more mature anime is to the American mainstream right now...

...which also brings me back to the point of WTF AM I STILL NOT SLEEPING

Coaxel Ethereal · Post by **Coaxel Ethereal** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:45 pm

Everything has been said, people will just keep rearranging the words if you try to keep this thread going.

...which brings me back to the point that, unfortunately, there is still no mainstream channel aimed at the age/interest group of older-teens-and-above who are partial to anime.

Everything is understood and agreed upon. This thread was going in a different direction at one point which i though was a good thing, but now were back at square one.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:46 pm

And lacking sleep, at that.

But I really don't know much about recent american animation... so, no comments there. I might like to see Samurai Jack, even, but I haven't, since I don't watch TV - nor have for the last 3 years or something like that

DrngdKreationz · Post by **DrngdKreationz** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:58 pm

Strangely enough I personally think the charachter design is much closer to Disney than most typical Anime/manga Charachter design. So I feel that this whole Amerime thing is being blown out of proportion.

Just to kick a dead horse, Aren't some of the Miyazaki films like "Spirited Away" Distributed by Disney?

Coaxel Ethereal · Post by **Coaxel Ethereal** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:48 pm

the title to this thread is more suiting after every post.

Just to kick a dead horse, Aren't some of the Miyazaki films like "Spirited Away" Distributed by Disney?

I believe so, if memory serves me right.

Vlad86 · Post by **Vlad86** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:41 pm

Duke MadThain wrote:the title to this thread is more suiting after every post.

Just to kick a dead horse, Aren't some of the Miyazaki films like "Spirited Away" Distributed by Disney?
I believe so, if memory serves me right.

They are.

In fact Disney struck a deal with Miyazaki to be the sole distributors of his works in both the US and Japan.

Funny thing though, part of the deal was that Princess Mononoke (which had just come out at the time) would be the first to be released in the US and like the res of his films, would not be edited. Well, Disney thinking of what typically comes from a Miyazaki film, blindedly signed the deal.
Then they sat down and watched Princess Mononoke.....
You'll notice that Princess Mononoke was released on Miramax (Disney's older audience label) and that Spirited Away and the rest of the films are on the Disney label.

But Disney held their end of the deal. They released Princess Mononoke totally unedited.

TheKorovaMilkbar · Post by **TheKorovaMilkbar** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:44 pm

Which is why Princess Mononoke is both well known and liked.

ReannaKing · Post by **ReannaKing** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:21 pm

Scintilla wrote:You say that as if anime was some great pure art form that's nobody's business but the <s>Turks</s> Japanese, and no one else has any place trying to emulate it.

It's been said far too many times before in this thread and in other places: cultures borrowing from other cultures happens ALL THE TIME. Anime borrowed, and now it's being borrowed from. Get over it.

Ouch. While I know that it's true that nothing would work out if no one emulated each other, it still bothers me.

Scintilla wrote:If they were trying to attract our crowd, then they'd make a show with a more mature plot, theme, etc. And they probably wouldn't put it on Nickelodeon.

By us I don't necessarily mean our age group. You misunderstand.
But you do make good points.